Chiefs Accountability: the offensive line. - Page 4

Direckshun · 09-13-2009, 05:59 PM

Call this milkman's thread.

This was the lineup:

LT Albert
LG Waters
C Niswanger
RG Goff
RT Ndukwe

Who played well? Who played like ass? Does anybody on this line deserve recognition?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-13-2009, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Create a thread next offseason advocating spending a 2nd-round pick on a center. You'll see.

If you would have proposed spending a #2 on Mack or Unger you would have gotten almost no resistance from anyone on this board.

Your inability to see the difference between a pro bowl guard and a pro bowl quarterback is your own failure. Don't extrapolate it out to thinking that everyone has a complete inability to see where you can get good value in the draft.

**ShortRoundChief** · 09-14-2009, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

We might have to explore the possiblity that he might not be franchise LT material.

I see how you can get that after his 17th game and being coached by two different o line coaches and two different head coaches. Especially when the game in question featured a great defense.

booger · 09-14-2009, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Don't know. There was another one where Brodie was stomping like mad. Of course, the Defense saw that and bum rushed him.

most likely play clock. I'm sure some of the verbage changed when the Chan firing happened and Haley rewrote some of the playbook. Haley probably has to slow down getting the call to Brodie and he has to slow down to call it to the others in the huddle. It's all new.

Not an excuse. It's what Haley chose to do. I'm glad in the long run.

booger · 09-14-2009, 03:17 AM

on the STL ps game broad cast Jayce pearson talked with Pioli and when Ryan O'Calloghan was talked about Pioli mentoned not only RT but RG as well.

Once they figure out if they will sign Runyan or not and decide on if O'Calloghan can be a starter or not, i would benifit to see to bigs at the RG and RT spots. Either R O'C at RG or RT and the same with Ndukwe. It just seems they aren't as concerned with Goff as others are. IIRC when they signed Goff they didn't want to confirm he would play RG when asked when he signed. That led to Teicher i believe saying maybe he would play C which he is capable of. Center is a problem in itself and maybe Alleman gets a chance there. Big guys at RG and RT though could get the run game going which would get the pass game going and keep the D off the field less.

I also expect Richardson to be brought up from the PS or another backup LT signed. Right now it is Wade Smith who was a full season starter at LT as a rook with Miami. He's basically the backup at all spots but RT on the game day active roster.

Mecca · 09-14-2009, 03:33 AM

The thing with Albert is playing guard in college and last year I'm guessing he was roughly the same weight for about 5 years...

You take off a significant portion of weight in a short period of time it can screw with your balance. He's playing a position that is all lateral agility and balance...

booger · 09-14-2009, 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The thing with Albert is playing guard in college and last year I'm guessing he was roughly the same weight for about 5 years...

You take off a significant portion of weight in a short period of time it can screw with your balance. He's playing a position that is all lateral agility and balance...

Yep. I think 305 is what Haley wanted him at and where he probably is. I think he had to lose some, not alot of muscle/stregnth. Hopefully he sticks to a strong lifting program in season as much as his body allows.

I think it is a new blocking scheme and lack of communication on some plays as to who blocks who. I saw that at least once today. J. Johnson i think came completely unblocked. But i agree Albert has got bull rushed to much.

The RB/TE max protect has been better but the communication/awareness between them and the Oline needs improvement.

RINGLEADER · 09-14-2009, 08:34 AM

Like a bad actor they were good half the time.

That one play when Baltimore blitzed it looked like the Chiefs didn't even have an offensive line. Other times they held up okay. Still need two tackles by next season IMO. If we trade for someone who is proven on the left side and draft someone on the right that would let us move Albert over to left guard where he belongs.

09-13-2009, 05:59 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Accountability: the offensive line. Call this milkman's thread. This was the lineup: LT Albert LG Waters C Niswanger RG Goff RT Ndukwe Who played well? Who played like ass? Does anybody on this line deserve recognition?
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09-14-2009, 03:17 AM	#49
booger Don't Tug on Superman's Cape Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: clear out in the sticks Casino cash: $-2481450	on the STL ps game broad cast Jayce pearson talked with Pioli and when Ryan O'Calloghan was talked about Pioli mentoned not only RT but RG as well. Once they figure out if they will sign Runyan or not and decide on if O'Calloghan can be a starter or not, i would benifit to see to bigs at the RG and RT spots. Either R O'C at RG or RT and the same with Ndukwe. It just seems they aren't as concerned with Goff as others are. IIRC when they signed Goff they didn't want to confirm he would play RG when asked when he signed. That led to Teicher i believe saying maybe he would play C which he is capable of. Center is a problem in itself and maybe Alleman gets a chance there. Big guys at RG and RT though could get the run game going which would get the pass game going and keep the D off the field less. I also expect Richardson to be brought up from the PS or another backup LT signed. Right now it is Wade Smith who was a full season starter at LT as a rook with Miami. He's basically the backup at all spots but RT on the game day active roster. __________________ 1 Thessalonians 5:3 “For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” KJV
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-782950	The thing with Albert is playing guard in college and last year I'm guessing he was roughly the same weight for about 5 years... You take off a significant portion of weight in a short period of time it can screw with your balance. He's playing a position that is all lateral agility and balance...
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09-14-2009, 08:34 AM	#52
RINGLEADER In Search of a Life Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Confusion, USA Casino cash: $8070503	Like a bad actor they were good half the time. That one play when Baltimore blitzed it looked like the Chiefs didn't even have an offensive line. Other times they held up okay. Still need two tackles by next season IMO. If we trade for someone who is proven on the left side and draft someone on the right that would let us move Albert over to left guard where he belongs.
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