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Old 09-30-2009, 07:22 AM  
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Jake Locker #1 prospect?

I was only half paying attention to ESPN radio this morning, but I believe Mort was on and said that according to scouts, it looks like Jake Locker would be the #1 QB prospect ahead of Bradford if he were to declare.

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Old 09-30-2009, 01:22 PM   #31
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Oh god people still think Spread Bradford is a great NFL prospect

I wish he would have just came out last year so we don't have to put up with this shit for another year.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:22 PM   #32
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Bradford's scheme doesn't require him to make reads pre-snap. They line up and run their plays without making any adjustments to defensive alignment. That makes it MUCH easier on Bradford and it's a further testament to the amount talent that surrounds him.

The way the spread works basically means that guys like this have never had to read a defense or go through progressions like they will have to in the NFL.
I understand the limitations of the system. He may not be able to operate in a pro style offense. He may not be good at reading defenses or making his own calls, etc. In his system, he throws a nice ball. He's accurate and has a good arm. That's all I'm saying.
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Old 09-30-2009, 01:27 PM   #33
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I understand the limitations of the system. He may not be able to operate in a pro style offense. He may not be good at reading defenses or making his own calls, etc. In his system, he throws a nice ball. He's accurate and has a good arm. That's all I'm saying.
I don't disagree.

But that wasn't the contention.

The contention was that Bradford was a better pro prospect than Locker and he's really not.
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Old 09-30-2009, 02:34 PM   #34
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If you can figure out a way to make Locker hit the broad side of a barn with his throws, I could probably get on board with that.

Mallett's the most impressive pro QB prospect I've seen in college football this year(I know he looked awful against Bama, but that was just as attributable to the whole squad).
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Old 09-30-2009, 02:34 PM   #35
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If you can figure out a way to make Locker hit the broad side of a barn with his throws, I could probably get on board with that.
Yeah, the accuracy is a concern. He looks gunshy to me.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:01 PM   #36
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Locker ran for something like 1000 yards and scored over 10 TD's in 2007 too, IIRC.
Yeah but we're talking about NFL potential.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:06 PM   #37
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Bradford's scheme doesn't require him to make reads pre-snap. They line up and run their plays without making any adjustments to defensive alignment. That makes it MUCH easier on Bradford and it's a further testament to the amount talent that surrounds him.

The way the spread works basically means that guys like this have never had to read a defense or go through progressions like they will have to in the NFL.
Yeah but Locker is a good college QB because of his speed and athleticism. Those things do not have as big an impact on a QBs NFL success as his ability to throw a pass, which Locker isn't that great at.

I can make a list of college QBs running who sucked in the NFL all day, but the bigger issue here is that I can't make a list of too many good running QBs in the NFL.

Bradford has more upside because he least he plays in a passing offense and guys like him have had success at the pro level.
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Old 09-30-2009, 03:11 PM   #38
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Locker's head coach is one of the best freaking QB coaches in the country. I would take him over a spread QB in Bradford. Its sad when freaking Matt Cassel looks better than any of the QB prospects this year.
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Old 09-30-2009, 04:09 PM   #39
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Locker's head coach is one of the best freaking QB coaches in the country. I would take him over a spread QB in Bradford. Its sad when freaking Matt Cassel looks better than any of the QB prospects this year.
That's gonna' leave a mark.
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Yeah but Locker is a good college QB because of his speed and athleticism. Those things do not have as big an impact on a QBs NFL success as his ability to throw a pass, which Locker isn't that great at.

I can make a list of college QBs running who sucked in the NFL all day, but the bigger issue here is that I can't make a list of too many good running QBs in the NFL.

Bradford has more upside because he least he plays in a passing offense and guys like him have had success at the pro level.
If you are using the spread as a positive because it's a passing offense that's actually bad and not what you should be doing.

Guys like McCoy and Bradford will have a harder transition because of it.
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