Chiefs Romeo Crennel - Page 3

Ralphy Boy · 10-06-2009, 09:34 PM

Since there is clearly nothing good to talk about and we're all thinking about "next year", I thought I'd waste some time and throw this out there. Romeo will be our DC next year.

When Gary Gibbs and Clancy Pendergast were hired, it wasn't clear who was going to be the DC for several days/weeks. Ultimately the nod went to Clancy, but most of us were speculating that they were trying to get Romeo and that was why they didn't give either one the nod for a time. Romeo said he was going to "take the year off", but expects to be back in coaching next year.
My thought is that Haley and Pioli told Gibbs & Clancy that they wanted Romeo, but if he declined...the job was going to Clancy. Basically they gave Clancy the job to hold for a year and if he does well, he keeps the job. Doesn't look like that'll happen.

Romeo makes too much sense to not end up here. He clearly doesn't have what it takes to be a HC and he knows it, yet he did very well working with Pioli and both know what each other is looking for in personnel.

Pioli knows Haley has too much on his plate and needs to have someone capable of taking care of everything on defense. He needs to make it a non-issue for Haley so that he can focus on offense. He also knows that Haley will always be heavily involved with the offense, no matter how many assistants and consultants he has on that side of the ball...and he wants him to be.

Pioli brought Haley in here because of his offensive experience and wants his focus to be on that side of the ball. Romeo is given complete control on the defensive side of the ball and Haley takes the offense with the HC title.

**Bane** · 10-06-2009, 10:53 PM

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Why in the world would you take a "up and coming coach" when you have the opportunity to get a guy who has 5 Super Bowl Rings (3 as defensive coordinator)?

Agreed,I'd much rather have Wade as DC,so that's why I'm saying someone else now.HA
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milkman · 10-06-2009, 10:57 PM

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Haley will not hand over the play calling duties. He will add some assistants & may actually hire an OC to run his offense, but he'll be calling the plays on game day. I can't see any scenario where he hires an OC like Saunders/Martz or whoever to run their offense, even if they are very similar.

I disagree.

While I think Haley was reluctant this year to hand over playcalling to an assistent, if he can find an OC who shares his philosophy, after this season of multiple responsibilities, I can easily see him handing off those responsibilities so he can more easily focus on the bigger picture.

RippedmyFlesh · 10-06-2009, 11:00 PM

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I disagree.

While I think Haley was reluctant this year to hand over playcalling to an assistent, if he can find an OC who shares his philosophy, after this season of multiple responsibilities, I can easily see him handing off those responsibilities so he can more easily focus on the bigger picture.

Maybe a fired zorn for OC/QB coach?

milkman · 10-06-2009, 11:09 PM

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Maybe a fired zorn for OC/QB coach?

That was actually something I brought up about a week ago, though I only suggested QB coach.

Ralphy Boy · 10-06-2009, 11:10 PM

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I disagree.

While I think Haley was reluctant this year to hand over playcalling to an assistent, if he can find an OC who shares his philosophy, after this season of multiple responsibilities, I can easily see him handing off those responsibilities so he can more easily focus on the bigger picture.

I just don't see him handing off the playcalling next season. Maybe, but I think he is more likely to find someone who can take care of the defense so he can stay just as involved in the offense, until it is where he wants it to be. He will want a version of himself in that role and I don't think he'll find that guy in an offseason. I think he's more likely to groom someone into that role like he was. He may hire a "coordinator" to help with game planning, but when the calls are sent in from the sideline, he'll be the one doing it. Think about the ego factor, I believe he knows/thinks that he is the best play caller in the game. Why hand that duty over to someone else?

Ralphy Boy · 10-06-2009, 11:11 PM

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Maybe a fired zorn for OC/QB coach?

Don't see him as OC, I think he's a WCO guy.

milkman · 10-06-2009, 11:13 PM

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I just don't see him handing off the playcalling next season. Maybe, but I think he is more likely to find someone who can take care of the defense so he can stay just as involved in the offense, until it is where he wants it to be. He will want a version of himself in that role and I don't think he'll find that guy in an offseason. I think he's more likely to groom someone into that role like he was. He may hire a "coordinator" to help with game planning, but when the calls are sent in from the sideline, he'll be the one doing it. Think about the ego factor, I believe he knows/thinks that he is the best play caller in the game. Why hand that duty over to someone else?

Bill Parcells has a big ego also, but for all of that ego, he was a great delegator.

Haley is from that Parcells tree.

milkman · 10-06-2009, 11:14 PM

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Don't see him as OC, I think he's a WCO guy.

Yeah, that.

rtmike · 10-06-2009, 11:18 PM

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Yeah, that.

Yeah same with Jauron. Isn't he a 4-3 guy?

milkman · 10-06-2009, 11:27 PM

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Yeah same with Jauron. Isn't he a 4-3 guy?

I can't think of any 34 defense he's been associated with.

RippedmyFlesh · 10-06-2009, 11:32 PM

I like what NO did last year had payton HC calling plays and had doug marrone(who is doing a frickin fantastic job in syracuse with robinson's players) an OL guy as OC.

BigRock · 10-07-2009, 12:57 AM

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Bill Parcells has a big ego also, but for all of that ego, he was a great delegator.

Haley is from that Parcells tree.

In addition to that, I know he's mentioned it before, but Pioli brought up again in that WFAN interview how when Belichick went to NE he realized he couldn't micro-manage everything like he had in Cleveland. And it made him a better coach.

Surely that's been a topic of at least a conversation or two between he and Haley.

10-06-2009, 09:34 PM
Ralphy Boy MVP Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $10004900	Romeo Crennel Since there is clearly nothing good to talk about and we're all thinking about "next year", I thought I'd waste some time and throw this out there. Romeo will be our DC next year. When Gary Gibbs and Clancy Pendergast were hired, it wasn't clear who was going to be the DC for several days/weeks. Ultimately the nod went to Clancy, but most of us were speculating that they were trying to get Romeo and that was why they didn't give either one the nod for a time. Romeo said he was going to "take the year off", but expects to be back in coaching next year. My thought is that Haley and Pioli told Gibbs & Clancy that they wanted Romeo, but if he declined...the job was going to Clancy. Basically they gave Clancy the job to hold for a year and if he does well, he keeps the job. Doesn't look like that'll happen. Romeo makes too much sense to not end up here. He clearly doesn't have what it takes to be a HC and he knows it, yet he did very well working with Pioli and both know what each other is looking for in personnel. Pioli knows Haley has too much on his plate and needs to have someone capable of taking care of everything on defense. He needs to make it a non-issue for Haley so that he can focus on offense. He also knows that Haley will always be heavily involved with the offense, no matter how many assistants and consultants he has on that side of the ball...and he wants him to be. Pioli brought Haley in here because of his offensive experience and wants his focus to be on that side of the ball. Romeo is given complete control on the defensive side of the ball and Haley takes the offense with the HC title.
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RippedmyFlesh Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: New York Casino cash: $10005817	I like what NO did last year had payton HC calling plays and had doug marrone(who is doing a frickin fantastic job in syracuse with robinson's players) an OL guy as OC.
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