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T-post Tom · 10-07-2009, 03:54 PM

Dallas Cowboysscouting report: Kansas City Chiefs

01:40 AM CDT on Wednesday, October 7, 2009
By RICK GOSSELIN / The Dallas Morning News

Kansas City quarterback Matt Casseland running back Larry Johnson can't wear enough padding to protect them from the punishment they are taking each week.

The Chiefs are in the opening stages of a rebuilding program under new general manager Scott Pioli. He inherited a 2-14 team and tried to address the offensive and defensive lines during the off-season. He also acquired what he believes to be his quarterback of the future in Cassel.

But one area Pioli could not adequately address was wide receiver. Holdovers Dwayne Bowe and Mark Bradleyand veteran newcomers Bobby Engram and Bobby Wade share one common trait – a lack of game-breaking speed. They aren't going to run past anyone.

That allows defenses to single cover the two receivers on the flank and invest as many as nine players in run Defense and harassment of the quarterback.

So Johnson has nowhere to run and Cassel no time to throw. Cassel has already missed one game with an injury, and the Chiefs have allowed 13 sacks through four weeks.

Johnson brought a sterling 4.5-yard career average into the 2009 season. But he is averaging a paltry 2.6 yards in his 72 carries and is still looking for his first touchdown. This from a back who once scored 20 TDs in one season on his way to the 2005 AFC rushing crown.

The Chiefs are still searching for their first rushing touchdown of 2009. Baltimore's Willis McGahee has five touchdowns in 37 carries. The Chiefs have none in 109 carries. Kansas City's longest run is 24 yards by backup halfback Jamaal Charles.

When Cassel has time to throw, his receivers give him little after the catch. Bradley has a team-best 50-yarder, but he doesn't even start. Bowe's long is 29 yards, Wade's is 20 and Engram's is 18.

A lack of offensive plays has led to Kansas City's 0-4 start. The lack of offensive speed could make for another long afternoon Sunday against the Cowboys.

carlos3652 · 10-07-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Buffalo signed him like 2 weeks ago making GB probably pretty upset he's gone.

I just dont understand why they would even risk it considering they blow... GB that is, why try to leave that guy on the PS...he wasnt good enough to be one of their best 4 OT?

Mile High Mania · 10-08-2009, 04:49 AM

It's more than just the QBs... I think the Packers have a better defense than KC. I also think the Packers have a better set of WRs.

InChiefsHeaven · 10-08-2009, 06:36 AM

I guess the question is this...would Aaron Rodgers make those plays here in KC? Would Matt Cassel look as bad in Green Bay? He looked pretty damn good last year in New England...

**notorious** · 10-08-2009, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

It doesn't hurt that Rodgers has a much stronger arm and is more accurate, especially down the field.

So what you are saying is Rodgers is 10 times the quarterback that Cassell will ever be.......

B b b b buutt Cassell went 11-5! He was amazing last year!

Cassell was a waste. Period. People got pissed when I compared the move to our former GM's moves.

**notorious** · 10-08-2009, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania

It's more than just the QBs... I think the Packers have a better defense than KC. I also think the Packers have a better set of WRs.

You can say that for every position and every player from any team when comparing anything to the Chiefs.

JD10367 · 10-08-2009, 08:02 AM

On ESPN, Schlereth just talked about the "Upset Alert" for this week, and he nominated the Titans against the Colts, and the Chiefs against the Cowboys.

JD10367 · 10-08-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious

You can say that for every position and every player from any team when comparing anything to the Chiefs.

No matter if Cassel or Croyle is starting... You have a good backup QB.

Otter · 10-08-2009, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

The absolutely obtuse arguments some people make are so far out there they deserve bitch slaps.

Let me break down yours:

I'm butt hurt that we didn't draft Sanchez and made up my mind about Cassell after 4 games with a shitty OL, new HC, GM, OC and no real receiving threat.

Send me your PayPal and I'll buy you a Mark Sanchez jersey so we can just get this over with already.

It's not your fault we didn't draft Sanchez Mecca. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. It's not your fault.

**notorious** · 10-08-2009, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JD10367

No matter if Cassel or Croyle is starting... You have a good backup QB.

Damnit, I forgot Colquitt, too!

Chief Faithful · 10-08-2009, 11:28 AM

So has WR become the #1 need in the 2010 draft?

Saccopoo · 10-08-2009, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

So has WR become the #1 need in the 2010 draft?

Based on the first quarter performances, I think that team need is something like this:

1. Center
2. Guard
3. Inside "Will" linebacker
4. Tight end
5. Safety
6. Left offensive tackle
7. Punt/Kick returner
8. Right offensive tackle
9. Inside "Mike" linebacker
10. Wide receiver
11. Outside "Jack" linebacker
12. Fullback
13. Outside "Sam" linebacker
14. Cornerback
15. Kicker
16. Punter
17. Quarterback

Pioli Zombie · 10-08-2009, 12:26 PM

Ok so its been decided. Pioli should have gone back in time and drafted Aaron Rodgers. Ok. I agree with that.
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Titty Meat · 10-08-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Aaron Rodgers has been under just about as much if not more pressure than Cassel yet he's made more plays...that should tell you something.

It says Rodgers has Jennings & Driver.

milkman · 10-08-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Pioli Zombie

Ok so its been decided. Pioli should have gone back in time and drafted Aaron Rodgers. Ok. I agree with that.
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The comparison is being made, dumbass, because everyone defending Cassel is saying, well, he doesn't have any time, he can't make plays or do anything with no protection.

Well Aaron Rogers is making plays and putting up yards in spite of the fact that he isn't getting any more time than Cassel's sorry ass.

And I'm sorry your dumb ass is too ****ing stupid to understand that.

tonyetony · 10-08-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The comparison is being made, dumbass, because everyone defending Cassel is saying, well, he doesn't have any time, he can't make plays or do anything with no protection.

Well Aaron Rogers is making plays and putting up yards in spite of the fact that he isn't getting any more time than Cassel's sorry ass.

And I'm sorry your dumb ass is too ****ing stupid to understand that.

I've watched all the Packers games and to say Cassel is getting the same time in the pocket as Rodgers is complete and utter BS. I know that Rodgers is taking some sacks and that the Packers line sucks but our line sucks much much much worse than theirs. I would swap our line for theirs any day of the week.

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T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1747293	Dallas Cowboys scouting report: Kansas City Chiefs Dallas Cowboysscouting report: Kansas City Chiefs 01:40 AM CDT on Wednesday, October 7, 2009 By RICK GOSSELIN / The Dallas Morning News Kansas City quarterback Matt Casseland running back Larry Johnson can't wear enough padding to protect them from the punishment they are taking each week. The Chiefs are in the opening stages of a rebuilding program under new general manager Scott Pioli. He inherited a 2-14 team and tried to address the offensive and defensive lines during the off-season. He also acquired what he believes to be his quarterback of the future in Cassel. But one area Pioli could not adequately address was wide receiver. Holdovers Dwayne Bowe and Mark Bradleyand veteran newcomers Bobby Engram and Bobby Wade share one common trait – a lack of game-breaking speed. They aren't going to run past anyone. That allows defenses to single cover the two receivers on the flank and invest as many as nine players in run Defense and harassment of the quarterback. So Johnson has nowhere to run and Cassel no time to throw. Cassel has already missed one game with an injury, and the Chiefs have allowed 13 sacks through four weeks. Johnson brought a sterling 4.5-yard career average into the 2009 season. But he is averaging a paltry 2.6 yards in his 72 carries and is still looking for his first touchdown. This from a back who once scored 20 TDs in one season on his way to the 2005 AFC rushing crown. The Chiefs are still searching for their first rushing touchdown of 2009. Baltimore's Willis McGahee has five touchdowns in 37 carries. The Chiefs have none in 109 carries. Kansas City's longest run is 24 yards by backup halfback Jamaal Charles. When Cassel has time to throw, his receivers give him little after the catch. Bradley has a team-best 50-yarder, but he doesn't even start. Bowe's long is 29 yards, Wade's is 20 and Engram's is 18. A lack of offensive plays has led to Kansas City's 0-4 start. The lack of offensive speed could make for another long afternoon Sunday against the Cowboys.
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