Chiefs This far in, would you say Cassel was the only option for the Chiefs? - Page 6

RedThat · 11-24-2009, 01:27 PM

I think so.

Really what could they have done to upgrade the QB position? Not much. They had no shot at Stafford, or, Matt Ryan from the previous year.

They were in range to draft Sanchez, but Id be more content with Cassel to this point since Sanchez is playing terrible.

What else could they have done? stick with Croyle or Thigpen? I was content when Thigpen was playing well, and thought we had some sort of chemistry, connection with Gailey's spread offense and Thigpen. But that all fell apart when the new regime took over.

I can't think of anything else? they could have traded up and try to get either Stafford or Ryan, but we know that would have been too costly. I guess he was the Chiefs best bet? Best thing is to just sit back, have some patience and wait for him to develop over time.

TheGuardian · 11-24-2009, 09:53 PM

Sanchez sucks, and will always suck. The guy is missing some real key ingredients to being a really good QB. Field awareness being the main one. Not only that, but the guy doesn't feel pressure around him at all. These aren't "learned" things, these are instincts much like a running back has instincts to make a guy miss or see the proper lanes. The fact is, Sanchez is missing some real key ingredients to becoming a top QB. He's never going to be one. Save my post, I don't care. I won't be wrong.

Cassel, much like last year in NE, has started slowly and looks better. And honestly, the guy has been pretty good in clutch time. And for whatever reason, you either have that or you don't. He seems to actually do better in those situations than when he's asked to be a game manager. I think because of this being Haley's first year with him, he'll get better at knowing what Cassel does best and call plays accordingly.

Either way, I wouldn't take Sanchez over Cassel at all. Sanchez is a bust in the making. Stafford is living up to his draft hype however. So good for him.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 11-24-2009, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Great.
Just pointing out that getting hit isn't an excuse for coughing up the ball - and that a fumble a game is unacceptable.

you'd be hard pressed to find anyone to argue there. It's pretty obvious Cassel has fumbled too much. That said, there's no reason to make up a stat at the mere suggestion of a correlation unless you're just looking for ways to shit on Cassel.

**KcMizzou** · 11-24-2009, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

If Brodie Croyle wasn't made of glass I still to this day would rather have him at QB

He is though, so it's irrelevant. If nothing else... when we actually become a decent to good team, he'll be a high quality back up that can get us through a game or three, without much of a drop-off.

I agree with everyone that Cassel's looked bad at times. But I think a lot of that is the product of the team around him. He's shown some nice flashes of what his future with this team could be like.

As for the thread title... Would I say he was the only option? Of course not. But I don't know that any of the other options would have done any better, given the situation.

You've gotta give the guy (and the HC, and GM) some time.

(And give the QB some time, literally.)

LanceHunter · 11-24-2009, 10:13 PM

I wish we could have had Thigpen's rushing yards (386) 6.2 yds. per carry and 3 TD's this season though lol. We might have picked up some crucial first downs for a couple more wins. Well for any Tyler fans maybe we'll get to see him if Miami trades him to Oakland in the off season, they could use a mobile QB lol.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 11-24-2009, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie

you'd be hard pressed to find anyone to argue there. It's pretty obvious Cassel has fumbled too much. That said, there's no reason to make up a stat at the mere suggestion of a correlation unless you're just looking for ways to shit on Cassel.

How did I make up a stat?

How else would you compare fumbling QB's when they've all been sacked a different number of times?

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 11-24-2009, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

How did I make up a stat?

How else would you compare fumbling QB's when they've all been sacked a different number of times?

It's not a made up stat. sorry. It's just a worthless stat that you decided to put together. But go ahead and keep driving the Aaron Rodgers case into the ground

chiefzilla1501 · 11-24-2009, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Great.

What does that have to do with this, again?

Just pointing out that getting hit isn't an excuse for coughing up the ball - and that a fumble a game is unacceptable.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong.

But I don't remember many instances of Cassel fumbling the ball.

I think a lot of those fumbles were due to miscues on either the snap or handoff. Last week was the first time in a long time I remember him coughing the ball because he didn't protect the ball well.

11-24-2009, 01:27 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	This far in, would you say Cassel was the only option for the Chiefs? I think so. Really what could they have done to upgrade the QB position? Not much. They had no shot at Stafford, or, Matt Ryan from the previous year. They were in range to draft Sanchez, but Id be more content with Cassel to this point since Sanchez is playing terrible. What else could they have done? stick with Croyle or Thigpen? I was content when Thigpen was playing well, and thought we had some sort of chemistry, connection with Gailey's spread offense and Thigpen. But that all fell apart when the new regime took over. I can't think of anything else? they could have traded up and try to get either Stafford or Ryan, but we know that would have been too costly. I guess he was the Chiefs best bet? Best thing is to just sit back, have some patience and wait for him to develop over time.
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11-24-2009, 09:53 PM	#76
TheGuardian MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $6305299	Sanchez sucks, and will always suck. The guy is missing some real key ingredients to being a really good QB. Field awareness being the main one. Not only that, but the guy doesn't feel pressure around him at all. These aren't "learned" things, these are instincts much like a running back has instincts to make a guy miss or see the proper lanes. The fact is, Sanchez is missing some real key ingredients to becoming a top QB. He's never going to be one. Save my post, I don't care. I won't be wrong. Cassel, much like last year in NE, has started slowly and looks better. And honestly, the guy has been pretty good in clutch time. And for whatever reason, you either have that or you don't. He seems to actually do better in those situations than when he's asked to be a game manager. I think because of this being Haley's first year with him, he'll get better at knowing what Cassel does best and call plays accordingly. Either way, I wouldn't take Sanchez over Cassel at all. Sanchez is a bust in the making. Stafford is living up to his draft hype however. So good for him.
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