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Old 01-05-2010, 08:29 PM  
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CHICAGO -- It appears the Chicago Bears won't have a shortage of candidates to replace Ron Turner, who was fired as offensive coordinator on Tuesday.

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The latest news from Bears beat reporter Jeff Dickerson. Blog

Former Notre Dame coach Charlie Weis is interested in the possibility of coming to Chicago, and he is currently holding off pursuing a similar role with the Kansas City Chiefs because of Tuesday's developments at Halas Hall, according to a source close to the Bears.

Weis was the offensive coordinator for the New England Patriots from 2000-04, playing a role in three Super Bowl championships. He also was the offensive coordinator for the New York Jets from 1997-99.

Weis was fired as Notre Dame's head coach on Nov. 30 after a five-year record of 35-27.

Former St. Louis Rams head coach Mike Martz also said he "absolutely" would be interested in replacing Turner.

Bears quarterback Jay Cutler is believed to be lobbying hard for ex-Denver Broncos quarterbacks coach Jeremy Bates, who spent last season calling plays for USC.
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Old 01-06-2010, 02:34 PM   #196
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Who wouldn't want to work for Todd Haley?
Or rather who would? Working for a hothead n00b who isn't on the firmest ground hmself?
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Old 01-06-2010, 02:48 PM   #197
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Yet every one of them had problems LINING UP at some point or another, But you are right lets ASSUME that they ran the right routes.
You're the only person assuming anything.

I've taken information and analysis from a former QB explaining part of the reason why Cutler's INT numbers are inflated, and you're trying to use it as an excuse for why Cassel sucked this year, without any evidence whatsoever.

FWIW, formation is determined by terminology.

Ex: (and a VERY basic one)

Ace Right 12 X-slant Z-post

Ace Right is the formation, 12 is the personnel grouping (1 back, 2 TE's) and tells the players where to line up

X-Dig means the X receiver runs a slant route

Z-Go means the Z receiver runs a post route.

Some teams would list it as Ace Right, 28.

The 2 designates the slant, and the 8 designates the post.


The routes themselves don't change.

Chambers didn't have to re-learn to run a post, or a slant, or a post-corner.

He just had to learn the terminology, which is why LINING UP was a problem.
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Old 01-06-2010, 02:50 PM   #198
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Thank You. he is employed by the bears. like i said i saw most bears games and cutler sucked almost all year. then to throw an INT and walk off and laugh on the sideline.... douchebag.
Wow.

And people think I'M cynical.

Jim Miller's opinion is worthless because he's on the payroll, and because your eyes can't possibly be deceiving you.

Got it.
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:19 PM   #199
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You're the only person assuming anything.

I've taken information and analysis from a former QB explaining part of the reason why Cutler's INT numbers are inflated, and you're trying to use it as an excuse for why Cassel sucked this year, without any evidence whatsoever.

FWIW, formation is determined by terminology.

Ex: (and a VERY basic one)

Ace Right 12 X-slant Z-post

Ace Right is the formation, 12 is the personnel grouping (1 back, 2 TE's) and tells the players where to line up

X-Dig means the X receiver runs a slant route

Z-Go means the Z receiver runs a post route.

Some teams would list it as Ace Right, 28.

The 2 designates the slant, and the 8 designates the post.


The routes themselves don't change.

Chambers didn't have to re-learn to run a post, or a slant, or a post-corner.

He just had to learn the terminology, which is why LINING UP was a problem.
and you are still assuming that our wrs were in the right spot at the right times
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:20 PM   #200
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Wow.

And people think I'M cynical.

Jim Miller's opinion is worthless because he's on the payroll, and because your eyes can't possibly be deceiving you.

Got it.
so do you believe everything dawson and gretz say?
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:23 PM   #201
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so do you believe everything dawson and gretz say?
Gretz was an ex-player?

I hold Lenny Dawson's opinion in high regard. His opinion would definitely carry more weight when it comes to the QB position.
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:24 PM   #202
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They were discussing this today on Mike & Mike. They made a good point about how Weis wants to be "the head coach of the offense" but Todd Haley probably just wants someone who's more of a consultant.
they were wrong ... Haley talk about wanting someone to run the offense for him next year. He also almost gave Weis a verbal blow job during his press conference.
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:24 PM   #203
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and you are still assuming that our wrs were in the right spot at the right times
I have no evidence to think they weren't. And again, you're confusing the running of a route with lining up correctly. They are independent of each other.

You want to think it's true without any evidence so you can make an excuse for Captain Checkdown.
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:51 PM   #204
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So was this press confrence even worth listening to? Because to be honest every other press confrence this year didn't even deserve a thread.
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Old 01-06-2010, 03:52 PM   #205
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So was this press confrence even worth listening to? Because to be honest every other press confrence this year didn't even deserve a thread.
Wrong thread.

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Old 01-06-2010, 03:54 PM   #206
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Wrong thread.

I know I just woke up from a nap after the oven was burning. Laz had mentioned in this thread that Haley was giving Weis a verbal bj.
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Old 01-06-2010, 04:29 PM   #207
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Gretz was an ex-player?

I hold Lenny Dawson's opinion in high regard. His opinion would definitely carry more weight when it comes to the QB position.
no gretz didnt play as far as i know, but he's been around long enough to know about what he's talking about IMO.

you should have listened to dawson after the cleveland game and what he said in regards to cassel.
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no gretz didnt play as far as i know, but he's been around long enough to know about what he's talking about IMO.

you should have listened to dawson after the cleveland game and what he said in regards to cassel.
This ought to be good, considering I attended the Cleveland game, and listened to the post game show uninterrupted until I reached Columbia, and lost signal.

I don't recall him saying anything that made Cassel look like a superstar, as a matter of fact, I vividly recall him criticizing the "hail mary" and his overall decision making.

Did he say some nice things, but that tends to happen when it's Week 15 and this is your first game over 265 yards passing.
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