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***Offical 2010 STL Cardinals Baseball Thread ***
Holliday signs. The Deal is Done. $120 Million over 7 years.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=stl Signed or controlled for the next 2 years Shumaker 2B Rasmus CF Pujols 1B Holliday LF Ludwick RF Molina C Freese 3B Ryan SS And 2 CY Young caliber starting pitchers Carp and Wainwright P We get Lohse or Garcia to step up and be a reliable 3rd starter in the playoffs we can win a World Series with this line up. |
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Depends on who you ask. DJ nut says its a franchise killer. I say letting him go is a franchise killer. He may be the most beloved Cardinal since Stan the man. You can't let him walk and he ain't going to stay for mid market pay. We can handle being a top ten payroll team.
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I agree with this statement.
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I didn't see it here but they traded the best defensive infielder they had for a Class A pitching prospect from Seattle, Yeah for Theriot!
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Had nothing to do with on the field talent. It was a team/ locker room chemistry thing. Supposely, some of the veterans had grown tired of Ryan's antics.
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If, however, they're willing to pay back the fans and subsidize the Pujols deal, we'll be fine. They need to simply recognize that they'll be paying the man $28 million/season and probably getting about $15 million/season in production from him. If they're willing to treat his contract as a $15 million deal (essentially requiring them to raise payroll by 10-15 million), we'll be okay. But they'd better not pay him that kind of money while expecting payroll to stay the same, not if they want to remain competitive.
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Pujols alone will return the investment to ownership. Let television contracts, jerseys, hats, extra ticket sales, etc pay for Pujols. A supporting cast around him is just icing on the cake.
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We have the most uptight manager in the game and a team that rolled over and died against inferior competition. And that man has the gall to blame Brendan Ryan for that? It's like blaming Bulgaria for WWII. There are way too many strong personalities on that club for it to be Brendan Ryan that sabotages it. Furthermore - this organization makes a habit of doing this to everyone they trade away. Anytime they trade somebody, they immediately send their media hatchet men to work on undermining them. It's pathetic and all too common at this point. People in STL are saying Carpenter wanted him gone. Nevermind the fact that he started 92% of Carpenter's games this season (vs. 72% for everyone else). Or that, of the 3 games he didn't start behind Carp, 2 were back to back when he was hitting .150 and in the 3rd he came into the game for good in the 3rd inning to replace a healthy Lopez. Yeah, Carpenter only requested him as his SS, he clearly wanted him gone. This was just another example of LaRussa not wanting to deal with the hyper youngster and he fired up his spin machine so he doesn't look like such a curmudgeonly asshole. Honest to God, he could be killing puppies in the clubhouse and we're still a better team with him at SS and Theriot at 2b, vs. Theriot at 2b and Skip ****ing Schumaker at 2b. We dumped the best defensive SS in the NL in favor of starting Skip Schumaker. Nah - LaRussa doesn't make these things personal at all.
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The only way Schumaker is out of this lineup is if he pulls a Josh Hancock.
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It's not like it would hurt his range to his right at all.
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Awesome.
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