Colorado Rockies finally caught cheating? What do you think?

[Buck]

The vid will prob be taken down soon due to the MLB's whiny bitch asses though.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by BuckinSmurf

KC_Connection's dad is Victor Conte

Never met him, though I know people who have.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Of course. But how much does it help? That's what I've been asking here repeatedly for the last two days, with no actual response, because nobody has ever been able to scientifically quantify it.


I've never doubted that more players started using steroids in the 90s than ever before. That observation makes me wonder why fans have never assumed guys like Griffey used, though.

The lack of demonstrable change in his body and hat size, the marked decline of his abilities once he hit 35 are some of the most obvious reasons.

Shockingly, you haven't had laboratory studies done on substances banned for the last 20 years in order to test their efficacy in a game in which their use is banned. Why? I don't know.

That said, I'm waiting to go down to Quintiles to sign up for their speedball study so they can figure out just exactly how much does snorting an entire 8 ball and then chasing the dragon **** you up.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The lack of demonstrable change in his body and hat size, the marked decline of his abilities once he hit 35 are some of the most obvious reasons.

Plenty of users that have been caught in recent years showed no demonstrable change in body size. But they still used.

Shockingly, you haven't had laboratory studies done on substances banned for the last 20 years in order to test their efficacy in a game in which their use is banned. Why? I don't know.

Until they do, though, making assumptions about the ultimate effectiveness of PEDs is intellectually and scientifically irresponsible. Unfortunately we have journalists and fans doing it every day.