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Old 10-02-2011, 06:47 PM  
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Cassel and Haley shouting match on sideline
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Old 10-04-2011, 12:23 PM   #121
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:11 PM   #122
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I'm sick of living with having a mediocre to piss poor QB. I won't ever root for the Chiefs to lose, but this year I won't be nearly as pissed when we do.

I don't know what our chances are for getting Luck, probably not that great really. But if we don't actively pursue a franchise QB for next year, I'm going to stab someone in the eye.
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:22 PM   #123
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Im sorry but thats bullshit. If you want to root for the team because you don't think hoping for the future is what a fan should do, fine. But to say people that want Cassel replaced with a potential QBOTF is fair-weather is ignorant.

Those same people post here every damn day about this team. They live and breath the Chiefs like everyone else. To me it takes a TON of passion about your team to be willing to watch a horrible season for the future. Everyone came in hoping for good stuff this year, and to be willing to suffer through it shows no fair-weather characteristics IMO.

People can be on other side of the fence. To sit here and call either side fair-weather is just biased and short-sighted. The Chiefs aren't going to win the Superbowl this year. If you are about the here and now and want to root for them to win 6ish games, so be it. If you want the Chiefs to always be doing what it takes for a Superbowl and that trumps the short term joy then so be it.
boy you completely lost me there! not sure how you came up with that. I was responding to this comment.

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I know this runs against the grain, but I'm going to continue to pull for Cassel, Haley and the Chiefs. We are just 4 games into the season - anything can happen, even at 1-3. I thought I could, but I just don't have it in me to root against my team, and it's players and coaches.
I certainly think Cassel should be replaced. absolutely. I NEVER said anyone that feels that way is fairweather. how you read that I just can't say....maybe you sir are the ignorant one.... when Michingan lost to App St I didn't say **** off Blue I'm not rooting for you anymore. chiefs are not doing well this year. I'm gonna keep rooting for them. that's all I'm saying. if you can't hang with your team when they are losing then you're fair weather - meaning you only root for them if they are winning. you DO understand English right? for Gods sake man, learn to READ.


EDIT - ahh screw it....reading this again I guess I can see around the corner to how you'd take it that way....but that's certainly not what I meant to convey. if you are hoping for a bad season to get a franchise QB that is STILL rooting for the team. fair weather folks just give up. ever seen someone you know show up wearing a jersey of a winning team and you know damn well they weren't rooting for them last year? makes me sick.
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:45 PM   #124
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You can put yourself in a position to draft a QB. You don't need the first pick in the draft to find your franchise QB.

How many real franchise QB's are there right now? Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Rothlisberger? How many of them were taken 1st? Top 10?
Since nobody else addressed this...


Brady - 6th Rd (2000)
Brees - 2nd Rd (2001)
Rodgers - 24th pick (2005)
Rothlisberger - 11th pick (2004)
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Old 10-04-2011, 01:49 PM   #125
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Also of note: 2002 and 2003 were awful years in terms of QBs in the draft. 2004 was a great year, though.

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It sounds like you need Cassel to come to your house and give you a pep talk. Maybe you wouldn't be so grumpy.
He can't find a receiver downfield, how the hell would he be able to find me 1500 miles away?
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You can put yourself in a position to draft a QB. You don't need the first pick in the draft to find your franchise QB.

How many real franchise QB's are there right now? Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Rothlisberger? How many of them were taken 1st? Top 10?
Your odds of getting a good qb 1 1 (first pick 1st round) are 50-50

Way better than any other spot.




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Brady - 6th Rd (2000)
Brees - 2nd Rd (2001)
Rodgers - 24th pick (2005)
Rothlisberger - 11th pick (2004)
Rodgers is the only one that truly stings because the Chiefs flat out passed him over.

Brady doest count, because that was blind luck the way he worked out.

Brees we didnt have a shot at, because we gave up our 1st for Vermeil and Green that year.

Big Ben was drafted before the Chiefs picked.

I know we all slam them for not taking a QB high over the years, but honestly, if you go back and research, there really hasnt been that many 1st Round QB's that became something that we flat out passed on in the past 20 years. Most of the time, the Chiefs drafted too low in the round after the best ones were selected. Thats the true curse of mediocrity (6-10 wins a year)
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