Chiefs Winner: Charlie Weis - Page 3

Hammock Parties · 12-08-2011, 11:35 PM

By Nicholas Athan
Warpaint Illustrated Publisher
Posted Dec 9, 2011

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With the news that Charlie Weis has returned to the Midwest to become the new head football coach at the University of Kansas, it’s time to revisit the Weis-Haley earthquake that shook the Kansas City Chiefs a year ago at this time.

It’s been well documented, but not always believed, that Haley and Weis feuded last year. The explanation for the breakup was that Weis left because he wanted to join his son at the University of Florida.

The truth is, Weis left the Chiefs because he could not work with Haley. Sure, he wanted to be closer to his family and begin a new life in Florida, but deep down he wanted to be a head coach again.

Had he stayed in Kansas City one more year, there is no doubt that Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli would have given Weis a chance to become the head coach in 2012. And yes, I do think – just like most of the local and national media - that the Chiefs will dump Haley at season’s end, or sooner.

For the University of Kansas, Weis’ hire means they’ve finally found a stabilizing force for their fledgling college football program. It also means the Chiefs let a talented offensive mind slip away. Had Weis been KC’s offensive coordinator this season, regardless of the quarterback on the field, the team would have two or three more wins.

While we’ll never know for certain what Weis would have done in the Chiefs’ coaching booth this season, we do know what Haley has done. He decided it was his way or no way, and struggled all season long to delivers plays to the quarterback.

I have no issue with that philosophy. Haley is the head coach and the buck stops with him. So it’s his coaching career that’s on the line.

He did a solid job getting his team ready for the Chicago Bears. This week he has a much more difficult task in repeating that performance against a feisty New York Jets team.

But the Chiefs game on Sunday will likely be overshadowed around these parts because of the Jayhawks’ decision to hire Weis. The constant “what if” scenarios will play out during his introductory press conference on Friday.

Kansas athletic director Sheahon Zenger just put Kansas football back on the map. With the hiring of Weis, the university has an opportunity to elevate their college football program to a place they’ve never been before.

I compare the hiring of Weis to the hire the university made when they lured Larry Brown away from the NBA’s New Jersey Nets in the 1980s. All he did was restore the tradition of Kansas basketball and win a National Championship. To this day, he maintains that coaching and living in Lawrence was the greatest honor of his life. Time will tell if that will ring true for Weis, but it could turn out that way.

I believe Weis could have made an equal impact for the Chiefs, so his hire is bittersweet. I wear my crimson and blue on Saturday, but my Chiefs red on Sunday.

Now I get to wear them both with equal pride. At least I will if the Chiefs make a coaching change and find the right man for the job like the Jayhawks did Thursday.

**ChiTown** · 12-09-2011, 08:50 AM

That is some of the worst journalism I have ever seen. WOW!

So, Nick Athan sucks ku cock as well? It all makes sense now..........

**ChiTown** · 12-09-2011, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

i just found the note Weis sent Todd Haley:

MISS ME YET?

That would be funny, if it made sense. Keep trying.

blaise · 12-09-2011, 09:02 AM

Charlie the Big Fat Coach
Had a very giant gut
And if you ever saw it
You would call it a front butt

All of the other coaches
Used to marvel at his weight
They never let big Charlie
get close to their dinner plates

Then when foggy Christmas season
KU came to say,
"Charlie you disgusting slob, how'd you like a coaching job?"
Lawrence restaurants did love it,
and they shouted out with glee,
"Charlie the Big Fat Coach, come into our eateries!"

BourbonMan · 12-09-2011, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise

Charlie the Big Fat Coach
Had a very giant gut
And if you ever saw it
You would call it a front butt

All of the other coaches
Used to marvel at his weight
They never let big Charlie
get close to their dinner plates

Then when foggy Christmas season
KU came to say,
"Charlie you disgusting slob, how'd you like a coaching job?"
Lawrence restaurants did love it,
and they shouted out with glee,
"Charlie the Big Fat Coach, come into our eateries!"

BoneKrusher · 12-09-2011, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

Yea cause the gator O was so great this year lol what a joke.http://espn.go.com/college-football/...florida-gators

or the Chiefs offense sticks so bad w/o him.

BoneKrusher · 12-09-2011, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown

That would be funny, if it made sense. Keep trying.

you dont think the Chiefs and Haley miss him calling the plays?

SenselessChiefsFan · 12-09-2011, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

you dont think the Chiefs and Haley miss him calling the plays?

Well, at least when he was here, people didn't forget to turn on their mics and you didn't see the QB yelling about getting a freaking play.

BoneKrusher · 12-09-2011, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Well, at least when he was here, people didn't forget to turn on their mics and you didn't see the QB yelling about getting a freaking play.

and the Chiefs could actually score a TD

**ChiTown** · 12-09-2011, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoneKrusher

you dont think the Chiefs and Haley miss him calling the plays?

I think we miss having an NFL QB, RB and TE more than we miss Weis

BoneKrusher · 12-09-2011, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiTown

I think we miss having an NFL QB, RB and TE more than we miss Weis

we can Blame the QB situation on Pioli or whoever scouts the talent for KC.

the injuries to RB and TE not so much. (well, maybe Pioli should have signed better depth)

**mlyonsd** · 12-09-2011, 09:19 AM

How did he do at Notre Dame again? Those guys don't exactly lack for recruiting.

whoman69 · 12-09-2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Silver, Florio, Lombardi.....

Lombardi has played tool for Pioli and wanted him fired after what is the best moment of coaching this season, his reaming out of Cassel. Not reported by Lombardi at all was that after that reaming Haley went to talk to Cassel on the bench. Not reported by Lombardi is that the Chiefs won the game because Cassel was inspired to not suck from that point on. Not reported by Lombardi is that confrontation was the main reason behind their 4 game winning streak.

Weis gets all the credit for turning Cassel into a 3rd replacement Pro-Bowl QB without any context behind it. Cassel turns it on against lesser teams with lesser defenses and craps his pants against everyone else.

It seemed pretty clear to me that Weis was always here on a loan program. He wanted to return to a HC position. He was not going to get that shot in the NFL so a return to the college ranks seemed the logical step. The conversation about the tiff with Haley is all one sided as Haley will not even throw a former coach under the bus even though that coach certainly hasn't gone the same route.

If Pioli is using the media to build a case to fire Haley, he is a chickenshit.

As was pointed out in the other thread, three fourths of people here believe Haley should not be fired, but a new Fire Haley thread comes up almost every day by the vocal minority that wants him gone.

Garcia Bronco · 12-09-2011, 09:21 AM

Charlie is a loser that only accomplished something with a video camera.

**HemiEd** · 12-09-2011, 09:25 AM

Nick Athan knows jack and shit about KU football.

The program is 121 years old, so fledgling is not a good word to use. Do they suck right now, yes. Floundering would have been much more appropriate, not fledgling.

They have had players such as Gayle Sayers, Nolan Cromwell, Gilbert Brown and many others come out of the program.

They have been ranked in the top ten numerous times.

Nathan, just leave Kansas alone and shut the **** up you stupid ****.

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HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $-499436	Nick Athan knows jack and shit about KU football. The program is 121 years old, so fledgling is not a good word to use. Do they suck right now, yes. Floundering would have been much more appropriate, not fledgling. They have had players such as Gayle Sayers, Nolan Cromwell, Gilbert Brown and many others come out of the program. They have been ranked in the top ten numerous times. Nathan, just leave Kansas alone and shut the ** up you stupid **.
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