Sac's 2012 End of Season Mock

[Saccopoo]

1. Peter Konz, C; Wisconsin: 6'3", 313 lbs.
- Yep, it's a ten pick reach at minimum, but Casey Wiegmann, while one of the best at his position during his career, is sniffing 40 and contemplated retirement before this past season. Rather than moving Hudson to center, keep him at guard (where he was a three time ACC first teamer & AP AA) and get a guy like Konz when you have the chance. He's big, physical and has the strength to handle even the biggest defensive tackles. I don't know if he's as good as Alex Mack at the same stage, but he reminds me a lot of him.



Other options would include OT's Riley Rieff or Jon Martin; ILB's Luke Kuechly or Dont'a Hightower (no Burfict as he hasn't shown the instincts to play at the next level or the capability to be anything other than a 15 yard personal foul waiting to happen).

2. Matt Reynolds, OT; BYU: 6'6", 330 lbs.
- Reynolds is a four year starter, and three year conference first teamer at left tackle. This also might be a bit of a reach, but he won't last beyond the second round and is most likely a better pro prospect than any offensive tackle beyond the top three. He's very athletic for a guy his size and could effectively play either side of the line. Plays nasty and through the whistle. Barry Richardson might be the worst starting offensive tackle in the NFL and the position needs to be addressed immediately. If the Chiefs don't get a shot at one of the top three in the first round, it needs to be addressed here - and Pioli has also shown the propensity to draft offensive line in the second round.



3. Derrek Wolfe, DT; Cincinatti: 6'5", 310 lbs.
- Initially, I would have loved the Chiefs to have picked up Wolfe in the 5th round, but after a monster 2011 season where he had 19.5 tackles for a loss and 9.5 sacks from the defensive tackle position for the Bearcats, he's going to be a riser, especially at the 3-4 defensive end spot where his length and speed to go along with his size are damn near prototype for the position. Jackson flashed a couple times in 2011 for the Chiefs, but Dorsey just looks like a "guy" out there and has a tendency to get absolutely engulfed by NFL guards.



4. Vick Ballard, RB; Mississippi State: 5'11", 215 lbs.
- With teams loading the box in an effort to stop him (because the Bulldogs didn't have much else offensively), Ballard still managed over 1000 yards on a 5.6 yards per carry. He's physically solid with good muscle mass and has very good vision. Is effective inside as well as out and is a good receiver. He went for 180 yards and two TD's in the Music City Bowl to close out his college career. He's a really good runnning back that would effectively fill the Thomas Jones spot in the lineup.



5. Tank Carder, MLB; TCU; 6'2", 240 lbs.
- With the two best blocking tight ends (Lutzenkirchen and Williams) going back to school for the 2013 season, this gets changed to linebacking stud Carder, who is the two-time MWC Defensive Player of the Year. Very instinctive and fundamentally sound, he was asked to do a lot in the middle playing in TCU's oddball 4-2-5 defense. Is effective in both coverage and filling the gaps on runs. Likes to put the big hit on carriers, but also plays smart. Is long and would be capable of carrying more weight to play inside in a 34. MVP of the 2011 Rosebowl when TCU beat a very good Wisconsin team. The guy can play some football.



6. Sean Cattouse, SS; California: 6'2", 215 lbs.
- With the loss of Berry at the start of the season, it highlighted the lack of depth that the Chiefs have at the strong safety position. McGraw has superb instincts but runs like he's in molasses. Sabby was a stopgap because of the injury. Cattouse has been solid for the Bears all season and one of the few bright spots on their defense. He's big, fast, likes to put the big hit on guys and has the tools to be an effective player with coaching. This is what you want in a backup strong safety.



7. Nick Provo, TE; Syracuse: 6'4", 250 lbs.
- Originally this was Caleb McSurdy, ILB; Montana, but with the pick of Carder in the fifth, another productive tight end on the roster is needed. Provo was First Team All-Big East in 2011 and set the Syracuse school record for career receptions for a tight end despite really only getting onto the field his junior and senior seasons. A Mackey semi-finalist in 2011.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

Sac, what are your thoughts on Osomele and Mike Adams to play RT?

People around here gave shit to Matt Reynolds for measuring in at the Shrine Bowl at a legit 6'4".

Someone posted a video of Osemele at Senior Bowl practices and in one shot he was standing next to Adams of Ohio State and he looked approximately 4" shorter than Adams standing right beside him. Both are listed at 6'6" by their schools. I'd like to see his arm measurements. He looked short in the blocking drills.

But then, both Will Shields and Rod Hudson, after All-American careers, dropped in the draft (Shields in the third and Hudson in the late second) because they measured short in the arms. (NFL guys hate that.) But operating at the guard spot, that isn't a big deal and if you have the strength, it might work to your advantage.

Adams is huge, but he hasn't looked overly impressive in the games I've seen him play. He didn't show a lot of technique or finesse and looked to just overwhelm people with his size/strength. I don't know. I think he's a big question mark in this draft. He's got proto size but he doesn't adjust well.

I guess it depends on what the Chiefs ultimately do with the offensive coordinator position. If they stay in a zone scheme like Haley was running, I'd say that Adams wouldn't fit. If they go to a power man scheme, then he might work. He'll need to be coached up, but he has the tools to be a solid right tackle if he wants to be.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Is Albert great? No. Is he good, yes. He is in the average - above average category to this point in his career. The question you need to ask yourself about this line, and THIS draft in particular, is can you win championships with the guys we have.

Albert - yes
Lilja - yes
Hudson - yes
Asamoah - yes
Richardson - no

I think A LOT of CP'ers are going to be disappointed after the draft. Everyone is calling for Lilja's head, and they'd rather Hudson at LG. Fact is, Pioli hasn't started a rookie on the Oline since he got here, and he hasn't replaced more than one piece(Lilja, Weigmann aside, they were seasoned vets) at a time.

Personally, I would like to get a RT this year for sure, and depending on where they plan on playing Hudson, it'd be nice to find a replacement for the opening that Lilja could create. I'd be fine with Hudson at LG and wouldn't mind waiting to pick up Brewster. Brewster looked VERY good in 1 on 1 blocking drills. He's a bit tall, but has good knee bend.

I'd love to get two new Olinemen this year, I just don't see Pioli replacing Lilja this early. Again though, it depends on what they want to do with Hudson. If they see him as their LG, they very well could go with two guys this draft.

Excellent assessment Aturnis.

I'm not sold on Brewster though. The guy I really like if we are going middle of the pack is Grant Garner of Oklahoma State. He was completely solid all year and the three games I saw of OSU, he was almost lockdown in each. A real vault door for Weeden all season. Someone is going to steal this guy in the mid-late rounds.

[reschief]

Mike Adams played well in the Senior Bowl and shut down some solid pass rushers. Mayock showed his highlights from the first half before the game resumed on NFL Network. Even if his technique isn't polished yet, he would be an significant upgrade over Richardson. Adams can move for his size and he can be coached up. Richardson, as we know, is at best a back up and at worse, a lost cause.

[gonefishin53]

The Chiefs need to get better converting short yardage and goal line opportunities. I think Romeo likes seeing his D on the sideline while the O moves the chains and scores TDs in the red zone. Hudson at C and a more physical guard than Lilga makes sense. It appears the staff has plans for Mims because they moved him up from the practice squad to keep other teams from nabbing him. Maybe Mims-LT, Albert-LG, Hudson-C, Asamoah-RG, and trade down to pick up Mike Adams for RT. Probably more change than most would like but at least there's a full off-season and training camp this year.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by gonefishin53

The Chiefs need to get better converting short yardage and goal line opportunities. I think Romeo likes seeing his D on the sideline while the O moves the chains and scores TDs in the red zone. Hudson at C and a more physical guard than Lilga makes sense. It appears the staff has plans for Mims because they moved him up from the practice squad to keep other teams from nabbing him. Maybe Mims-LT, Albert-LG, Hudson-C, Asamoah-RG, and trade down to pick up Mike Adams for RT. Probably more change than most would like but at least there's a full off-season and training camp this year.

Starting a practice squad player at LT and moving Albert to LG. You should run, and run fast.

[gonefishin53]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Starting a practice squad player at LT and moving Albert to LG. You should run, and run fast.

I don't see the Chiefs attracting quality free agents so any improvement in the O-line's ability to do better in short yardage and goal line will be with the current roster and rookies. Albert was an all-american LG in college so maybe he'll be a lot better pro LG than LT. Until club ownership and the front office make KC an above average destination for quality free agents, the scouting and coaching staff will have to work miracles with projects like Mims if Chief's fans hope to see a playoff win anytime soon.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

Asamoah did struggle at times. There were a couple of games he was downright bad - he got absolutely worked in the Dolphins game. There was also times he looked good, such as the Raiders game. And Albert had a season where he played to middle of the pack level at best.

However, you are like a number of other morons here who think that because we picked a guy, specifically an offensive line player, in the front part of the draft, that that guy is automatically gold regardless of what happens on the field.

Yeah, that's it you ****ing abortion.

We are all homers and you are the bright light trying to show us the way.

Beat your ridiculous drum somewhere else on Albert. There's actually people who understand football on this board.

[O.city]

i don't think it matters what Albert does, in Sacs eyes he will never be good enough.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by gonefishin53

I don't see the Chiefs attracting quality free agents so any improvement in the O-line's ability to do better in short yardage and goal line will be with the current roster and rookies. Albert was an all-american LG in college so maybe he'll be a lot better pro LG than LT. Until club ownership and the front office make KC an above average destination for quality free agents, the scouting and coaching staff will have to work miracles with projects like Mims if Chief's fans hope to see a playoff win anytime soon.

Moving Albert, who finally made strides as a LT, and who still has room for growth, is not what I'd call a good plan.

Mims is a RT project.

But this team needs to draft a RT that can start day one.

The one thing I agree with in sac's posting is finding a true center and putting Hudson at LG.

[O.city]

IMO, if we aren't taking Richardson in the first, this draft sets up perfect to just go true fan and get Olineman and depth.

Sacs dream come true, but it might be just what this team needs.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

IMO, if we aren't taking Richardson in the first, this draft sets up perfect to just go true fan and get Olineman and depth.

Sacs dream come true, but it might be just what this team needs.

It's not "true fan" when right tackle and center (assuming Wiegmann retires) are the biggest holes on this team. That's simply being objective and rational.

People wanting to burn a first rounder on a guy like Tannehill are utterly insane.

I'm all for drafting a quarterback, but beyond Luck and Griffin, there is nothing to get excited about and to go major desperation and reach for a guy like Tannehill is flat out bat shit crazy.

It's also a little crazy wanting to pick Richardson as Charles is one of, if not the, best backs in the NFL. You don't waste a first rounder picking another running back when you already have one of the best. Yeah, it's a two back league at this point, but when you have a guy like Charles, you don't need to go draft a position that has the shortest lifespan of any spot in the NFL in the first round.

The Chiefs aren't going to get Luck or Griffin. Period. Drafting Richardson is a waste. It would be like Minnesota drafting him. There are other holes to fill. (Unless Charles' knee is a problem. If he is a red flag medically, then Richardson should be considered even though I think drafting a running back in the first is a questionable move. But I don't think Richardson is going to be there anyway.)

And if they make a move for Manning, do you really want him being protected by Barry Richardson? (And if the Colts cut him as expected, I think that the Jets are the #1 destination at this point.)

[O.city]

I wasn't trying to insult you Sac, I actually like the draft you put together.

IMO if we had a quarterback, this draft would be the one that put us at tht top.

[KCrockaholic]

When will your next one be? I'm just curious.

I typically wont do a mock until after the combine. Sometimes the combine can really make a difference in certain guys stock. Sometimes too much. I'll probably post mine up sometime beginning in March.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by O.city

I wasn't trying to insult you Sac, I actually like the draft you put together.

IMO if we had a quarterback, this draft would be the one that put us at tht top.

Oh, I know.

People just think that franchise quarterbacks fall from the sky. They don't. And we aren't going to get one in this draft unless it's a lucky shot in the dark. The price for Luck and Griffin is going to be enormous. And for guys that have never played in the league, giving up an entire draft plus doesn't make a lot of sense. (It's going to take a Ricky Williams level deal to get one of those guys. Remember how much Atlanta paid to go get Julio Jones thinking that was the one missing piece to their puzzle?)

People seem to forget that Rogers sat for several seasons before he started. During that time, Green Bay did a really nice job in building the team and when Rogers got his chance, they had put the necessary pieces in place to have a really good club.

The Chiefs are close. They've got some really nice skill position players (contingent on Moeaki, Berry and Charles returning to form) and need a few more pieces in the trenches and one good quarterback.

I actually like Stanzi and hope he gets the chance here in KC. We get a right tackle and a center, it might give a guy like Stanzi a shot to be something legit.