Chiefs Pioli on Carr.... - Page 14

Consistent1 · 02-21-2012, 03:17 PM

Brandon Carr - DB - Chiefs

Chiefs GM Scott Pioli insists the signing of Stanford Routt does not affect the team's feelings for free agent Brandon Carr.
"As a matter of fact," said Pioli, "Romeo [Crennel] and I both reached out to Brandon yesterday as this was unfolding and talked to him. ... He knows, and he's known before, he's someone we want to keep here, and he's still someone we want to keep a Chief." That may be true, but it's now easier said than done if Carr draws an attractive offer from another team -- as is expected to be the case.
Source: ArrowheadPride.com
Feb 21 - 4:11 PM

O.city · 03-12-2012, 10:11 PM

Thing is next year we HAVE to spend this money. I'd rather spend it this year on these free agents than overpay for what might be out ther enext yeat.

Chiefshrink · 03-12-2012, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefFan

So another bullshit story of re-signing our own, especially when they've earned it.

I'd almost guarantee we won't be retaining Carr.

Nah we won't and he will probably go to Denver. They love Carr out here

The comment by Pioli is not lip service IF Carr will come back for Pioli's price but Carr knows Pioli won't pay him thus the signing of Routt.

Fritz88 · 03-12-2012, 10:15 PM

I bet he's expecting big news.

**DeezNutz** · 03-12-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Well Pioli has said many times just because you have a zillion dollars of cap space doesn't mean you go spend all of it like the Fed Govt. Pioli wants VALUE period for the talent he brings in. Bellichek is gifted in finding these no names at bargain prices that CAN PLAY and Pioli is doing the same thing.

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Sounds like we need to try to lock up the Hoodie.

BigChiefFan · 03-12-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritz88

I bet he's expecting big news.

Yeah, he gets to get the Hell out of here and go play for a real team committed to winning and improving their roster.

kcxiv · 03-12-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sportsshrink

Well Pioli has said many times just because you have a zillion dollars of cap space doesn't mean you go spend all of it like the Fed Govt. Pioli wants VALUE period for the talent he brings in. Bellichek is gifted in finding these no names at bargain prices that CAN PLAY and Pioli is doing the same thing.

Well, The Patriots actually win in the play offs. The Chiefs barely scrap the play offs every few years, then take an ass raping when they get there. Apples and Oranges.

Doing it the "patriots way" and not having a QB is just fail.

I just wanna see a damned play off win. I am not even asking for a damned SUperbowl anymore. Its very embarrassing to say my team is one of the worst teams in the NFL when it comes to post season success in the last 40 years.

BigRock · 03-12-2012, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Thing is next year we HAVE to spend this money. I'd rather spend it this year on these free agents than overpay for what might be out ther enext yeat.

People have to quit saying this.

Next year, teams have to start spending 89% of the cap amount in CASH SPENDING. Not in salary cap space. Meaning whatever the cap is, 89% of that amount has to be getting paid out to the players on the team.

A year ago, the Chiefs were incredibliy close to spending 100% of the cap amount in cash spending. The cap was $120 million, the Chiefs' cash spending was about $119 million. They supposedly had the 9th highest cash spending total in the league. And they still had $20+ million of cap space, proving that the two things have little to do with each other.

They were well above the 89% last year. They'll be well above it this year. And Clark told the Star it's never going to be a problem.

There is not, not at any point, going to be a time when they will have to go spend money. Anyone who thinks the Chiefs are going to be forced to go out and sign people this year or next is in for serious disappointment.

King_Chief_Fan · 03-13-2012, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

People have to quit saying this.

Next year, teams have to start spending 89% of the cap amount in CASH SPENDING. Not in salary cap space. Meaning whatever the cap is, 89% of that amount has to be getting paid out to the players on the team.

A year ago, the Chiefs were incredibliy close to spending 100% of the cap amount in cash spending. The cap was $120 million, the Chiefs' cash spending was about $119 million. They supposedly had the 9th highest cash spending total in the league. And they still had $20+ million of cap space, proving that the two things have little to do with each other.

They were well above the 89% last year. They'll be well above it this year. And Clark told the Star it's never going to be a problem.

There is not, not at any point, going to be a time when they will have to go spend money. Anyone who thinks the Chiefs are going to be forced to go out and sign people this year or next is in for serious disappointment.

good post... good clarification on the cap

**bevischief** · 03-13-2012, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Thing is next year we HAVE to spend this money. I'd rather spend it this year on these free agents than overpay for what might be out ther enext yeat.

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whoman69 · 03-13-2012, 07:39 AM

Yeah, Clark Hunt is such a great owner that the team let walk a top flight CB only to sign a cheaper replacement who has nowhere near the talent. Clark is such a generous owner that Peyton told the Chiefs to go **** themselves. This team is all about the cheaper alternative.

BigRock · 03-13-2012, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

good post... good clarification on the cap

Why, thank you.

Just to clarify, though, I forgot about the extensions that happened during last season. With re-signing Hali and Flowers and whoever else, they ended up spending over $140 million.

So their cash spending wasn't near 100% of the cap, it was actually well over 100%. And as such, it was obviously way past the 89% minimum.

**Rausch** · 03-13-2012, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRock

Why, thank you.

Just to clarify, though, I forgot about the extensions that happened during last season. With re-signing Hali and Flowers and whoever else, they ended up spending over $140 million.

So their cash spending wasn't near 100% of the cap, it was actually well over 100%. And as such, it was obviously way past the 89% minimum.

On top of this there is apparently some % of what you didn't spend last year that you can carry over to this year. I don't claim to know the exact numbers but the basic idea is that if you were $X under the cap last year you can go a percentage of that OVER the cap this year.

So not only are we an INSANE amount under but since we didn't spend $#it last year apparently we're allowed some OVER this year.

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