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Old 04-29-2012, 09:12 AM  
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Pioli Deserves Props

The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed.

We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them.

After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected.

Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it.

After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team.

If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come.

Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for.

In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well.

Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either.

We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.
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Old 05-03-2012, 06:15 PM   #826
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Of course, that's NOT AT ALL what I said.

Arguing AGAINST Gannon <> arguing FOR Grbac.

For someone who throws 4-year old temper tantrums about people being "intellectually dishonest" you shouldn't be so quick to put words in people's mouth.

You are the biggest ****ing baby on this board, bar none.
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You make two posts saying that I made claims that I never once made and when I call you on your bullshit you backpeddal and act like you didn't make the claims about me (even though you directly quoted me and made your claim) then you have the nerve to try to turn things around as if I put ANY words in your mouth.

If you don't want to have people call you intellectually dishonest, don't be.

It's that simple.
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:35 PM   #827
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They were winning with Grbac too. Everybody only remembers the last game.

Nobody remembers that, with Grbac at the helm, the team was arguably the BEST TEAM IN FOOTBALL the first half of that season.

That team had one of the best defenses ever fielded in KC as far as takeaways, a defense that manufactured points as good as any in the history of football.

To argue that Gannon could have won that playoff game if he had played in place of Grbac is 100% revisionist history.
Winning 5 straight going into that final game is the kicker.

You dont change dicks in midstream.
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Old 05-04-2012, 02:07 PM   #828
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"I've seen teams change QB and it's been a disaster"


Yup Scott Pioli deserves credit.
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Old 05-09-2012, 05:00 PM   #829
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Old 05-09-2012, 06:18 PM   #830
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Old 05-14-2012, 10:22 AM   #831
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"I've seen teams change QB and it's been a disaster"


Yup Scott Pioli deserves credit.
He really said this? Of course he did. I thought our drafts were supposed to get better and better. Mmm...yeah.
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Old 05-14-2012, 10:25 AM   #832
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Pioli gets a franchise quarterback in the 5th round and people still bitch.
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Old 05-14-2012, 10:30 AM   #834
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Pioli gets a franchise quarterback in the 5th round and people still bitch.
Start the fool. Please. Shat Crapple makes my bowels ache.
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I... uhhh..... that's... ummmm....

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Old 05-14-2012, 10:56 AM   #837
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They were winning with Grbac too. Everybody only remembers the last game.

Nobody remembers that, with Grbac at the helm, the team was arguably the BEST TEAM IN FOOTBALL the first half of that season.

That team had one of the best defenses ever fielded in KC as far as takeaways, a defense that manufactured points as good as any in the history of football.

To argue that Gannon could have won that playoff game if he had played in place of Grbac is 100% revisionist history.
The quote isn't "don't change horses in midstream....UNLESS you're getting onto a horse you rode for a long time before this current horse!"

You just don't change horses midstream. It's like pulling a pitcher during a shutout. Who cares if you're replacing him with a Cy Young winner? The guy is succeeding. Why mess with it?
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Old 05-15-2012, 03:19 PM   #838
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See, if your current horse is glue factory-fodder, then changing to a new horse, even in the middle of the race, is a wise descision.
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