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Old 01-04-2013, 10:20 PM  
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Reid Draft Record is Nothing to Get Excited About
I recognize the Eagles have picked in the bottom third almost all the time, but if you look at this draft history there are really not very many standout names and few pro bowl players.

http://www.pro-football-reference.co.../phi/draft.htm

The first rounders are especially troubling. While several have been productive NFL players only one would really qualify as a stud. He loves to draft DT 4 in 12 years add in a couple of DE and 50% of the time the defensive front gets the first round pick.

2012 Fletcher Cox DT (TBD)
2011 Danny Watkins OL (TBD)
2010 Brandon Graham DE (TBD)
2009 Jeremy Maclin WR (???Maybe/Maybe not)
2008 no pick
2007 no pick
2006 Brodrick Bunkley DT (Hit)
2005 Mike Patterson DT (Hit)
2004 Shawn Andrews G (Hit)
2003 Jerome McDougle DE (Bust)
2002 Litto Sheppard DB (Hit)
2001 Freddie Mitchell WR (Bust)
2000 Cory Simon DT (Hit)
1999 McNabb (by far the cream of the crop)

Now I have to give Reid credit he seems to be able to get some big names in FA. I would say he overpays and many of the big name FA do not perform up to the level they should.

There is more to like than dislike with the Reid hire, but I remain very doubtful he will ever bring a SB championship to the Chiefs.
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:19 AM   #121
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Old 01-05-2013, 08:47 AM   #122
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Do you have a way of linking me to when the news guy was asking Reid about KCs quarterback position and he said "we have the first pick"?
It's buried in a mega-thread.

You could try searching for threads by him that contain the word "Eskin".
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I recognize the Eagles have picked in the bottom third almost all the time, but if you look at this draft history there are really not very many standout names and few pro bowl players.

The first rounders are especially troubling.
2012 Fletcher Cox DT (TBD)
2011 Danny Watkins OL (TBD)
2010 Brandon Graham DE (TBD)
2009 Jeremy Maclin WR (???Maybe/Maybe not)
2008 no pick
2007 no pick
2006 Brodrick Bunkley DT (Hit)
2005 Mike Patterson DT (Hit)
2004 Shawn Andrews G (Hit)
2003 Jerome McDougle DE (Bust)
2002 Litto Sheppard DB (Hit)
2001 Freddie Mitchell WR (Bust)
2000 Cory Simon DT (Hit)
1999 McNabb (by far the cream of the crop)
I count 7 of 9 successes with the first picks at a low level due to all the playoff success. How the hell do you say you're troubled with the picks? I think you are just troubled......his picks have been pretty damn good IMHO

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Old 01-05-2013, 10:35 AM   #125
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Old 01-05-2013, 11:22 AM   #126
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It's not just about drafting the studs. Other than a stud quarterback. Which Reid got in McNabb. Look at Carl Peterson. He managed to get several studs. DT, Neil Smith, Derrick Johnson, Tony Gonzales, for example. How many playoff wins did that get him? Bottom line he drafted a team that won in the postseason. I'll take his drafting any day of the week and twice on Sunday
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It's not just about drafting the studs. Other than a stud quarterback. Which Reid got in McNabb. Look at Carl Peterson. He managed to get several studs. DT, Neil Smith, Derrick Johnson, Tony Gonzales, for example. How many playoff wins did that get him? Bottom line he drafted a team that won in the postseason. I'll take his drafting any day of the week and twice on Sunday
so it's about getting the right 53?
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Old 01-05-2013, 12:50 PM   #130
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JFC people.

Are people really bitching over a coach that has more playoff wins in the last 14yrs, than this franchise does in it's entire history?

This may be the best hire we've had since Marty and people are going to bitch about his drafts? Let's talk about our drafts for a second. Let's talk about the 2009 draft or the 2011 draft or the 06 or 07 or any draft under Dick Vermeil.

This is a major improvement people....chill the **** out.
This.

Even by the OP's own analysis 7 of the 10 first round draft picks under Reid's HC tenure (that he gave non TBD grades to) he gave a passing grade to.

However since they apparently aren't HOF caliber players they aren't considered worthy draft picks by the OP's standard of grading.
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It's not just about drafting the studs. Other than a stud quarterback. Which Reid got in McNabb. Look at Carl Peterson. He managed to get several studs. DT, Neil Smith, Derrick Johnson, Tony Gonzales, for example. How many playoff wins did that get him? Bottom line he drafted a team that won in the postseason. I'll take his drafting any day of the week and twice on Sunday
Peterson didn't draft Neil Smith
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The flaw in this thread is thinking that draft success solely is measured in 1st round picks and ignoring all other picks.
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Peterson didn't draft Neil Smith
LOL. Oh yeah. Smith was drafted the year before he took over. Regardless, Peterson had Smith at his disposal and still failed to build a team that could win in the playoffs.

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