Combine Losers: Would you take them now? - Page 2

RunKC · 02-27-2013, 06:44 AM

Some guys with real talent struggled at the combine and their stocks have fallen pretty far. Would you take them, consider them or forget about these talented guys?

Damontre Moore OLB Texas A&M

Projected draft stock last month: top 10

The guy was a standout defensive lineman at Texas A&M. A high first-round pick according to some mock drafts. So, what happened at the Combine? Moore was able to bench-press 225 pounds just 12 times, ranking him last among defensive linemen. Not good. What's worse, he appeared to suffer a hamstring injury while running the 40-yard dash. Moore might have yipped his way out of the first round.

Tim Heitman-USA TODAY Sports - USA TODAY Sports

How do you feel about him at: 34?

Montee Ball RB Wisconsin

Projected draft stock last month: 3rd round

NFL scouts weren't high on Ball after his junior season. They probably still aren't now. His 4.66 time in the 40 isn't what teams are looking for in a running back. He fared even worse in the short shuttle, which is another critical drill for running back prospects. Where will he go in the draft? Late ... if at all at this point.

Brian Spurlock-USA TODAY Sports - USA TODAY Sports

How do you feel about him at: 6th round?

Keenan Allen WR Cal

Projected draft stock last month: 10-25 range

The wide receiver out of Cal has been a sexy pick to go in the first round. Well, he participated in exactly zero drills at the Combine. So ... uh, why did he show up? To practice his interview skills? There are speech classes for that.

Brian Spurlock-USA TODAY Sports - USA TODAY Sports

How do you feel about him at: 34?

Johnthan Banks CB Mississippi State

Projected draft stock last month: 1st round

Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State. After a rough Tuesday, Banks no longer looks like a first-round pick. He posted one of the slower 40 times (4.59) among corners. Banks looks good on film, but he needed to show more speed and other corners like Xavier Rhodes of Florida State may have jumped him

How do you feel about him at: 34?

Terrance Williams WR Baylor

errance Williams was the most productive receiver in the nation last year. But after a poor showing at the combine, he now must face the possibility of significantly sliding backward in this draft.

This a deep class of receivers, and Williams may get lost in the middle of the pack after a poor showing in Indianapolis.

How do you feel about him at: 34?

Chance Warmack G Alabama

Projected draft stock last month: top 15

Chance Warmack, OL, Alabama

Some draft analysts downplayed Warmack’s 5.49 time in the 40, saying pulling guards don’t have to run 40 yards. But the 6-2, 317-pound Warmack looked soft – maybe the reason he skipped the bench press.

How do you feel about him at: 34?

Kevin Minter ILB LSU

Most made a stink about Notre Dame's Manti Te'o running in the 4.8 range, but how about Minter? He ran a similar time and has never been regarded as the best movement skills. Some teams will like Minter the same now as they did a week ago. But the combine proved he's a scheme-specific prospect.

How do you feel about him at: 34?

**DaKCMan AP** · 02-28-2013, 07:25 AM

I'd take all of them. They are all good prospects.

DJ's left nut · 02-28-2013, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yeah, trading for Smith is worth less than Jeff Allen, Rodney Hudson, Dexter McCluster, Matt Cassel and Mike Vrabel combined.

Oh, the horror.

How can the Chiefs possibly win 8 games now?

Well hell, we've made a lot of poor picks with our 1st rounder as well, probably oughta just throw that one in there while we're at it.

What the **** is your point?

Everyone has noted that this draft is very deep and is likely to have some conventional first round talent available at the top of the 2nd. With a deep DB draft, it could've easily been another Brandon Flowers. There is some intriguing WR talent that looks like it could make it there.

But you're right - the Chiefs should probably win 8 games fairly easily. Over and over and over again. And that's about it.

tyton75 · 03-01-2013, 07:29 AM

If they produced in REAL GAMES, they are good players and should be considered.

02-27-2013, 06:44 AM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1600389	Combine Losers: Would you take them now? Some guys with real talent struggled at the combine and their stocks have fallen pretty far. Would you take them, consider them or forget about these talented guys? Damontre Moore OLB Texas A&M Projected draft stock last month: top 10 The guy was a standout defensive lineman at Texas A&M. A high first-round pick according to some mock drafts. So, what happened at the Combine? Moore was able to bench-press 225 pounds just 12 times, ranking him last among defensive linemen. Not good. What's worse, he appeared to suffer a hamstring injury while running the 40-yard dash. Moore might have yipped his way out of the first round. Tim Heitman-USA TODAY Sports - USA TODAY Sports How do you feel about him at: 34? Montee Ball RB Wisconsin Projected draft stock last month: 3rd round NFL scouts weren't high on Ball after his junior season. They probably still aren't now. His 4.66 time in the 40 isn't what teams are looking for in a running back. He fared even worse in the short shuttle, which is another critical drill for running back prospects. Where will he go in the draft? Late ... if at all at this point. Brian Spurlock-USA TODAY Sports - USA TODAY Sports How do you feel about him at: 6th round? Keenan Allen WR Cal Projected draft stock last month: 10-25 range The wide receiver out of Cal has been a sexy pick to go in the first round. Well, he participated in exactly zero drills at the Combine. So ... uh, why did he show up? To practice his interview skills? There are speech classes for that. Brian Spurlock-USA TODAY Sports - USA TODAY Sports How do you feel about him at: 34? Johnthan Banks CB Mississippi State Projected draft stock last month: 1st round Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State. After a rough Tuesday, Banks no longer looks like a first-round pick. He posted one of the slower 40 times (4.59) among corners. Banks looks good on film, but he needed to show more speed and other corners like Xavier Rhodes of Florida State may have jumped him How do you feel about him at: 34? Terrance Williams WR Baylor errance Williams was the most productive receiver in the nation last year. But after a poor showing at the combine, he now must face the possibility of significantly sliding backward in this draft. This a deep class of receivers, and Williams may get lost in the middle of the pack after a poor showing in Indianapolis. How do you feel about him at: 34? Chance Warmack G Alabama Projected draft stock last month: top 15 Chance Warmack, OL, Alabama Some draft analysts downplayed Warmack’s 5.49 time in the 40, saying pulling guards don’t have to run 40 yards. But the 6-2, 317-pound Warmack looked soft – maybe the reason he skipped the bench press. How do you feel about him at: 34? Kevin Minter ILB LSU Most made a stink about Notre Dame's Manti Te'o running in the 4.8 range, but how about Minter? He ran a similar time and has never been regarded as the best movement skills. Some teams will like Minter the same now as they did a week ago. But the combine proved he's a scheme-specific prospect. How do you feel about him at: 34?
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