Football QBs picked in the first two rounds 06-10....and their fates. - Page 3

Deberg_1990 · 09-02-2013, 07:28 PM

From Peter King.....

I think it wasn’t a good weekend for bonus baby quarterbacks, and not just ones named Tebow. Five quarterbacks picked in the top 50 of the last seven drafts were cut: Vince Young and Matt Leinart (2006), Brady Quinn (2007) and Tim Tebow and Jimmy Clausen (2010). Brian Billick says picking a quarterback is no better than a 50-50 proposition between success and failure. Let’s see, based on the five drafts between 2006 and 2010. (It’s too early to make definitive judgments on quarterbacks in the league for two or fewer years.) Let’s look at the quarterbacks picked in the top two rounds from 2006 to 2010, and their fate:

Of the 21 quarterbacks drafted in the top two rounds of these five drafts, six are solid starters, and eight are out of football.

Let’s now cut it down to first-rounders only. Billick, it turns out, is on the money. If you don’t count Sanchez as a starter—and I don’t see how you can term him a starter right now—six of the 12 first-round picks over a five-year period are starting in the league. So it’s still a crapshoot. Six players in the first two rounds of the ’11 draft will be opening-day starters, but let’s see if Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder, among others, can stand the test of time.

http://mmqb.si.com/2013/09/02/kevin-...quarterback/4/

**DeezNutz** · 09-02-2013, 08:38 PM

King is a drooling mother****er who believes that Pioli actually understands football. By the way, has that **** had to return his "Executive of the Year" awards in shame?

**** you, Scott Pioli. Crawl the **** out of KC any time now you worthless piece of mother****ing shit. I know that you're on this board, and we still all ****ing hate you.

Reread this post about 200 times before you go to bed. Because I know that you will.

**BossChief** · 09-02-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

basically, there aren't many "franchise" QB's in any decade. certainly not enough to go aound in the NFL.

not even close.

Sure there are...for the teams that you know, actually try to find them and develop them.

Guys like Rodgers, Flacco, Wilson, Kaepernick, Brees, Brady and many others were all deemed "not good enough" for the Chiefs to draft at the time.

It's not a matter of "there simply aren't enough franchise quarterbacks. Waaaahhh waahhh."

It's a matter of some teams always look for the instant gratification, low ceiling and small window player (KC) and some teams understand that good things come to those that wait (75% of NFL teams)

Pitt Gorilla · 09-02-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

The only thing this article teaches is... you don't take a 1st rnd QB just to take one.. you take one that you genuinely like. Duh.

Yup.

splatbass · 09-02-2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

The only thing this article teaches is... you don't take a 1st rnd QB just to take one..

A lot of people have been arguing just that here on CP. That you keep taking a 1st round QB until you get it right, and some are still saying we should have taken Geno Smith at 1.1 even though no team thought he was worth a 1st. It seems like for some people getting a 1st round QB is the most important thing.

**BossChief** · 09-02-2013, 09:22 PM

Look at all of the superbowl quarterbacks of recent history (last 15 years or so) and you will get depressed as you realize how many of them "weren't good enough" for the Chiefs to draft.

Hopefully, Bray works out...but the odds are firmly against that.

**Dave Lane** · 09-02-2013, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

12 first round QBs and 5 legit starters. At less than 50% it is certainly no guarantee, but I still believe that is the best place to find a QB to win SuperBowls with.

Why does no one ever do a study of "safe" 1st round RT's?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-02-2013, 10:48 PM

Hopefully, we'll never have to know that crushing feeling of picking a first round bust!/Lil'Chiefy

AussieChiefsFan · 09-04-2013, 02:34 AM

If you were to come back in two years and include 2011/2012, the number of legit starters would be much higher.

**the Talking Can** · 09-04-2013, 04:20 AM

chiefs fans spend their off days coming up with reasons to not draft QB...

of course

mcaj22 · 09-04-2013, 05:02 AM

i love how this fat **** left off 11,12 QBs, even if the sample is too small, the players have had such an obvious impact after 1 or 2 seasons it would have ruined his
"Fat Scott Pioli defense of shitty drafts offensive lineman and bust WRs over QBs" argument

Red Gorilla · 09-04-2013, 10:20 AM

Over the last ten years the league became a QB driven league. Mainly because of rules that protect the quarterback and rules that make life hard for CBs. In that time, there have been five Superbowl QBs that weren't taken in the first round. The whole first round QB thing is outdated imo. I think King's article is irrelevant.

09-02-2013, 07:28 PM
Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $114454	QBs picked in the first two rounds 06-10....and their fates. From Peter King..... I think it wasn’t a good weekend for bonus baby quarterbacks, and not just ones named Tebow. Five quarterbacks picked in the top 50 of the last seven drafts were cut: Vince Young and Matt Leinart (2006), Brady Quinn (2007) and Tim Tebow and Jimmy Clausen (2010). Brian Billick says picking a quarterback is no better than a 50-50 proposition between success and failure. Let’s see, based on the five drafts between 2006 and 2010. (It’s too early to make definitive judgments on quarterbacks in the league for two or fewer years.) Let’s look at the quarterbacks picked in the top two rounds from 2006 to 2010, and their fate: Of the 21 quarterbacks drafted in the top two rounds of these five drafts, six are solid starters, and eight are out of football. Let’s now cut it down to first-rounders only. Billick, it turns out, is on the money. If you don’t count Sanchez as a starter—and I don’t see how you can term him a starter right now—six of the 12 first-round picks over a five-year period are starting in the league. So it’s still a crapshoot. Six players in the first two rounds of the ’11 draft will be opening-day starters, but let’s see if Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder, among others, can stand the test of time. http://mmqb.si.com/2013/09/02/kevin-...quarterback/4/ Attached Thumbnails
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09-04-2013, 05:02 AM	#40
mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	i love how this fat **** left off 11,12 QBs, even if the sample is too small, the players have had such an obvious impact after 1 or 2 seasons it would have ruined his "Fat Scott Pioli defense of shitty drafts offensive lineman and bust WRs over QBs" argument
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09-04-2013, 10:20 AM	#41
Red Gorilla Banned Join Date: Aug 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	Over the last ten years the league became a QB driven league. Mainly because of rules that protect the quarterback and rules that make life hard for CBs. In that time, there have been five Superbowl QBs that weren't taken in the first round. The whole first round QB thing is outdated imo. I think King's article is irrelevant.
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