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Old 10-28-2013, 07:07 PM  
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Are NFL kickers too good? Should the NFL adjust ?

Get rid of extra points?

Narrow the goal posts?

Put a different point value on field goals based on distance?

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At some point, the NFL’s going to have to acknowledge the efficiency of field-goal kickers is just too good. And the league is either going to have to narrow the goalposts or put a different point value on field goals from different distances.

When kickers are making 19 of 20 field-goal tries, on average, from inside the 40-yard line (stunning but true) and two-thirds of their attempts beyond 50 yards (and they are: 45 of 68, or 66.2%), you know this isn’t what the game is supposed to be. Kicking field goals has just become too easy.

This easy, as the season nears the midpoint:

From inside the 40-yard line: 230 of 245, 93.9%.
From between the 40- and 49-yard line: 126 of 153, 82.4%.

And the biggest waste of time in sports is the point-after. Six were missed all season last year, and this year, only two of 524 have gone awry. It is positively insane that the NFL doesn’t either eliminate the PAT, move the snap way back from the 2-yard line, or force teams to go for two. Something. Anything. For years, it’s been a nothing play, and the Competition Committee refuses to do anything tangible about it.

I know some will say, “Wait until the weather turns. Then you’ll see the percentages go down.” And they will. But by how much? The field goal is simply not challenging enough. Do we want the game to be so boring, to lack any suspense, when a kicker steps up to make a field goal? I can tell you the founding fathers of this game never dreamed the kickers would be so great that they would be good on 87 percent of their field goals through nearly half a season.
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:26 PM   #46
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PATs are a waste. No one would consider Succop an elite kicker and he's never missed one in his career.
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:26 PM   #47
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They need to move the kickoffs back to where it used to be. But that's about it.

If you screw with the pts of a FG...or make a longer FG worth more, then you're going to see teams purposely take a negative play and down the ball so that they can try for more points at the end of a game. You can not allow that to happen.
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:27 PM   #48
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They could make it illegal for white guys to kick. That'd **** things up a little.


And foreigners.

How about this... require the kicker to be a girl!
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:28 PM   #49
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They need to move the kickoffs back to where it used to be. But that's about it.

If you screw with the pts of a FG...or make a longer FG worth more, then you're going to see teams purposely take a negative play and down the ball so that they can try for more points at the end of a game. You can not allow that to happen.
So make FGs snapped inside the 10 worth 4, From the 11-30 worth 3, and anything outside the 30 worth 2.
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:32 PM   #50
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They could do away with the holder and make kickers use the drop kick.
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:36 PM   #51
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points based on distance is dumb. Punish a team that moves farther down the field?
Good point. There could be built in incentives to lose yardage on third and long just to get an extra point or two out of the field goal.
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Okay. I got it. The kicker has to weigh more than any other player on the team.
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:41 PM   #53
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PATs are a waste. No one would consider Succop an elite kicker and he's never missed one in his career.
I'm starting to feel like Succop is becoming one of the best. He's iffy from 50+ but aren't they all? He's money inside that.
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:48 PM   #55
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Jan Stenerud (1967-85)
580/601 - 96.5%
In 1976 he missed 6 PATs! (27/33)

Nick Lowery (1978-96)
562/568 = 98.9%
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Old 10-28-2013, 08:53 PM   #57
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In 1976 he missed 6 PATs! (27/33)
Holy cow. A kicker would get fired for that in today's NFL.
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