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View Poll Results: Which QB will be the best pro?
Manziel 24 23.08%
Bortles 20 19.23%
Carr 16 15.38%
Bridgewater 27 25.96%
Garrapolo 4 3.85%
Someone else 13 12.50%
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Old 05-08-2014, 11:24 AM  
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Which QB will be the best pro?
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Old 05-08-2014, 04:53 PM   #76
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That's pretty good. My pole is always cuming first.
don't you mean your poll is "pre-maturely cuming"?
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Old 05-08-2014, 05:03 PM   #77
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"I'm gonna tell you. I said Johnny Manziel is … I don't like his antics. I think he's an arrogant little prick," Switzer said. "I've said that and I'll say it again. He's a privileged kid, he's embarrassed himself, he's embarrassed his teammates, his program. He's embarrassed his coach. And they'll all have to defend him because they have to coach. I know what it's like. I spent 40 years embarrassing everyone around me so I know how it works."
Fixed yer post, Mr. Switzer.
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Old 05-08-2014, 05:09 PM   #78
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Don't get me wrong, I'd take him without thinking twice. Love the attitude on the field.

But holy shit - this fanbase goes all weeping vagina over Bowe pointing at the back of his jersey.


There would be gnashing of teeth over his "antics", no doubt.
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Old 05-08-2014, 05:13 PM   #79
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There would be gnashing of teeth over his "antics", no doubt.
No there wouldn't....not with how he looks.
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Look at the games we won and lost...I think last years a chiefs would have made the playoffs with Johnny.
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Old 05-08-2014, 05:20 PM   #81
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No there wouldn't....not with how he looks.
He's no Dwayne.
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Coming out of college, Alex Smith had many of the same flaws that Manziel has. In fact, Smith was coming out of an Urban Meyer system, the same system that everybody's favorite whipping boy Tim Tebow came out of.

Outside of a handful of people, nobody here knows a damn thing about Alex Smith's first few years in San Francisco, let alone what kind of player he was at Utah.

But of course, he's the Chiefs QB now, so he's the awesome.
He started to be awesome after his shoulder injury was repaired and after they quit getting a new coach in there every year. But he's been consistent for the last 5 years, apart from some injuries.

It just seems like a hard sell if I'm the owner of a team, for a GM to come to me and say this guy is going to be healthy playing his game at the NFL level, the first one of his size to work out as a long term starter, do it while succeeding without ideal arm strength for an NFL QB, will learn to play the game a new way from how he's played it in the past, and either do it immediately or keep what seems to be a sizable ego in check while someone else plays.

It's not a question for me in that position like it is for a fan, do I think it's worth a shot. It's do I want to turn my franchise over to that chance for the next several years, or would I rather pick one of several other guys who seem to more closely fit the well-worn pattern of NFL QBs... Someone will take the chance, but it couldn't be very easy to tell a businessman that this is his best bet
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Old 05-08-2014, 05:30 PM   #83
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It just seems like a hard sell if I'm the owner of a team, for a GM to come to me and say this guy is going to be healthy playing his game at the NFL level, the first one of his size to work out as a long term starter, do it while succeeding without ideal arm strength for an NFL QB, will learn to play the game a new way from how he's played it in the past, and either do it immediately or keep what seems to be a sizable ego in check while someone else plays.
Drew Brees did almost all of those things.

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It's not a question for me in that position like it is for a fan, do I think it's worth a shot. It's do I want to turn my franchise over to that chance for the next several years, or would I rather pick one of several other guys who seem to more closely fit the well-worn pattern of NFL QBs... Someone will take the chance, but it couldn't be very easy to tell a businessman that this is his best bet
In business, those kinds of risks are what separates the millionaires and billionaires.
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Drew Brees did almost all of those things.
I think it's pretty obvious that Brees' game coming out of college was a lot closer to the NFL QB mold
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I think it's pretty obvious that Brees' game coming out of college was a lot closer to the NFL QB mold
Did you watch Brees in college?

He was one of the prototype's for the "spread QBs won't make it in the NFL" argument. He average like 5YPA for his first 2 years in the league and everybody (including me) declared him a bust.
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Did you watch Brees in college?

He was one of the prototype's for the "spread QBs won't make it in the NFL" argument. He average like 5YPA for his first 2 years in the league and everybody (including me) declared him a bust.
I think that being a spread QB puts you behind on day one, but half of the division 1 programs out there are running spread offenses these days.
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I think that being a spread QB puts you behind on day one, but half of the division 1 programs out there are running spread offenses these days.
They weren't when Brees was in college.
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They weren't when Brees was in college.
Sure, but the point is just that a spread QB is closer than one who runs as much as Manziel does to being ready to start in the NFL.

I would probably die from the shock if we were to take him, but if we do then fine, I'm on board, let's ride.

It would just give me a lot of heartburn to see us try this, because much like our strategy of never drafting QBs high, there's a pretty well established pattern of what works in the postseason in the NFL and we're trying to do something that has really never been shown to work.
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Sure, but the point is just that a spread QB is closer than one who runs as much as Manziel does to being ready to start in the NFL.

I would probably die from the shock if we were to take him, but if we do then fine, I'm on board, let's ride.

It would just give me a lot of heartburn to see us try this, because much like our strategy of never drafting QBs high, there's a pretty well established pattern of what works in the postseason in the NFL and we're trying to do something that has really never been shown to work.
Manziel had 144 rushing attempts last season. He had 429 pass attempts.

Alex Smith in his final year had 135 and 317 pass attempts.

Tim Tebow had 217 rushing attempts to only 213 pass attempts.

How much did you watch Manziel play? You seem convinced that he's a running QB. He's not any more of a running QB than Alex Smith is.
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