Chiefs Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs - Page 42

cmh6476 · 12-30-2014, 11:06 AM

stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM

Trent Green 2002 (32 years old)
287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs

Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old)
303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs

Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-01-2015, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

A little late, but let me just pop in and say that Carl and Herm did Trent dirty not bringing him back in '07. Carl went cheap ass to get LJ signed and Herm should have never ****ed with the offense. That is all.

Trent was 0-6 after the trade. At least Carl negotiated a draft pick for him, which led to drafting Brandon Albert via Detroit and Minnesota in the Jared Allen deal.

Hoopsdoc · 01-01-2015, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Thanks for the debate. I agree with most of your points. Good luck to your Colts on Sunday.

Thanks and good luck to the Chiefs.

We may get by Cincy but no further than that.

**BossChief** · 01-01-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I think we probably would have won 10-11 games with Andrew Luck this year

It's funny that Clay is referencing Andrew Luck like he actually watched him this year, though. Because clearly he didn't.

We would probably be the afc Super Bowl favorite with Luck at QB.

Jmo

**Bowser** · 01-01-2015, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Trent was 0-6 after the trade. At least Carl negotiated a draft pick for him, which led to drafting Brandon Albert via Detroit and Minnesota in the Jared Allen deal.

I don't remember Detroit being involved with the Allen trade. I thought his 1st and 3rd picks from Minny alone brought us Albert and Jamaal?

And yeah, Trent was not even close to the guy he was here in Miami. He was in the perfect system with the perfect players around him with the Chiefs. I still don't understand what Herm was thinking when he changed up the offense with Solari. Hell, he even said he wasn't changing anything when he came here in his press conference, lol.

**Baby Lee** · 01-01-2015, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

We would probably be the afc Super Bowl favorite with Luck at QB.

Jmo

If we're just rampantly speculating, there's no way Kelce gets called for a fumble in the Ariz game is the pass had come from Luck.

No was Vonn Miller tattoos the bridge of his helmet on the shoulder blades of a Luck jersey without repercussion either.

Not sure that's a job skill I'd necessarily hang my hat on, but every little bit helps.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-01-2015, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

I don't remember Detroit being involved with the Allen trade. I thought his 1st and 3rd picks from Minny alone brought us Albert and Jamaal?

Yeah, Detroit was involved with a deal with Minnesota which affected which picks we ultimately received through Minnesota (and Detroit).

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Originally Posted by Bowser

And yeah, Trent was not even close to the guy he was here in Miami. He was in the perfect system with the perfect players around him with the Chiefs. I still don't understand what Herm was thinking when he changed up the offense with Solari. Hell, he even said he wasn't changing anything when he came here in his press conference, lol.

Because Herm?

If anything, it was a sad way for a guy like Trent Green to go out in Kansas City. I think he was probably the most liked QB since Len Dawson and his send off was quite unceremonious.

**Bowser** · 01-01-2015, 03:58 PM

Agreed. You could argue that Trent has been the second best quarterback to ever throw a pass for the Chiefs. Like I said, Carl did him (at least a bit) dirty.

**BossChief** · 01-01-2015, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

I don't remember Detroit being involved with the Allen trade. I thought his 1st and 3rd picks from Minny alone brought us Albert and Jamaal?

And yeah, Trent was not even close to the guy he was here in Miami. He was in the perfect system with the perfect players around him with the Chiefs. I still don't understand what Herm was thinking when he changed up the offense with Solari. Hell, he even said he wasn't changing anything when he came here in his press conference, lol.

Iirc we moved up a spot or 2 with them to draft Albert.

I think the pick we used to do so was the one we got from the Trent Green trade.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-04-2015, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

That's just hilarious to me.

See

On one franchise, the QB is the "singular driving force." Nevermind all of the errors he makes, or all of the receivers he misses (I saw Luck miss a wide open Reggie Wayne streaking down the sideline for a 70 yard TD that was every bit as bad of a miss as the Smith / Wilson miss).

All anyone says is, "Luck has to do it himself! His line doesn't block! His defense is terrible!"

Bull
****ing
Shit

You can't use excuses for one QB because his name is Andrew Luck and then turn around and consider those same excuses invalid for another QB because his name is Alex Smith, and it's counterproductive to your argument.

It's ridiculous.

You should get help for your crack addiction.

This is the only explanation for your perspective on Luck.

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cmh6476 Keep Camp Home! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Joe MO Casino cash: $-1113723	Alex Smith's 2nd year looks alot like Trent Green's 2nd yr w/Chiefs stat-wise and Because we are the Chiefs and DKTM Trent Green 2002 (32 years old) 287/470 - 61.1% 3,690 yards 26 TDs 13 INTs Alex Smith 2014 (30 years old) 303/464 - 65.3% 3,265 yards 18 TDs 6 INTs Well sans the TDs but Green only had 17 in 2001 and Smith had 23 in 2013.
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Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $-278384	Agreed. You could argue that Trent has been the second best quarterback to ever throw a pass for the Chiefs. Like I said, Carl did him (at least a bit) dirty.
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