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Old 07-15-2015, 09:59 AM  
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Old 07-17-2015, 04:07 AM   #511
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And now the mother ****er gives interviews and talks about how Russell Wilson had the best interview of anyone he's ever interviewed at the combine. He gushes over Wilson, but refused to even consider him because he was dying to prove Cassel was the right move.

Hell, I was told a story years ago about how Kaepernick was who a lot of scouts wanted as our #1 that year and it was Pioli's call for Baldwin.
That's impossible, I've read on here that Clark won't allow a QB to be taken in the first round.
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Old 07-17-2015, 04:34 AM   #512
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That's impossible, I've read on here that Clark won't allow a QB to be taken in the first round.
And yet, here we are.
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And now the mother ****er gives interviews and talks about how Russell Wilson had the best interview of anyone he's ever interviewed at the combine. He gushes over Wilson, but refused to even consider him because he was dying to prove Cassel was the right move.

Hell, I was told a story years ago about how Kaepernick was who a lot of scouts wanted as our #1 that year and it was Pioli's call for Baldwin.
Don't know if true, but I think Haley made a push for Hasselbeck and for kaepernick. His dad said from the beginning that cassel was no good.
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Old 07-17-2015, 06:51 AM   #514
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Holy cow. Are these numbers for real? Perhaps it has been discussed, but I don't understand structuring it like this. Huge cap hit the next few years.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-ci...ustin-houston/

2015 cap hit 5.1 mil
2016 cap hit 19.1 mil
2017 cap hit 20.6 mil
2018 cap hit 19.1 mil
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Old 07-17-2015, 08:33 AM   #517
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Don't know if true, but I think Haley made a push for Hasselbeck and for kaepernick. His dad said from the beginning that cassel was no good.
By all accounts, Kaepernick was Haley's pick but he was overridden.

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Holy cow. Are these numbers for real? Perhaps it has been discussed, but I don't understand structuring it like this. Huge cap hit the next few years.

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-ci...ustin-houston/

2015 cap hit 5.1 mil
2016 cap hit 19.1 mil
2017 cap hit 20.6 mil
2018 cap hit 19.1 mil
Seems like those are accurate, yes.

The reason you structure it like that is the rollover provision. By removing $8 million from this season's cap figure, it rolls over to next season in effect bringing his 2016 cap hit down accordingly by bringing our overall cap figure for the 2016 league year up by $8 million. Then you can shell game the amount that doesn't get spent in 2016 to carry over into 2017.

It's a difficult thing to have to keep reminding yourself of, but with a rollover in place, a heavy frontloading is almost always going to be defensible. Let's say that Houston would have been fine with cap figures of $15 million/season over the next 3 seasons (the average of the 3 above). The Chiefs couldn't actually fit $15 million into this season but they could could have gone ahead and gone with $13 million this season then $16 million and $16 million to make that work. Instead they went with $5 mil this season, $8 rolls over into the 2016 season and raises your cap by $8 million; you can create a fiction of allocating the first $3 million of that rollover to the $19 million cap hit for next season to make it a 'virtual' $16 million and then the remaining $5 million to his 2017 number to get it to around $16 million as well.

In the meantime, you've created near term flexibility for potential extensions to ascending players or the opportunity to sign undervalued FAs.

Without the rollover it's nutty, but with the rollover it makes perfect sense. It operates a lot like the Ben Grubbs extension did. The Chiefs have shown a preference for structuring deals like this and with no rollover taxes/penalties, it makes a lot of sense.
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It's a pretty exciting time in chiefs land when players actively want to be here and enjoy it. Add to that our current coaching system and it seems pretty cool.

If we can just best denver this year it would be even better, but until we do, I'm guessing we cant.
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It's a pretty exciting time in chiefs land when players actively want to be here and enjoy it. Add to that our current coaching system and it seems pretty cool.

If we can just best denver this year it would be even better, but until we do, I'm guessing we cant.
I've said it elsewhere, but merely having a competent front office makes being a fan so much more enjoyable.

I don't know if the Cardinals have the best front office in baseball...but I'm comfortable saying it's up there in the top 5ish. So when they go out there and take Jake Woodford with their first comp pick, I think "man, I wouldn't have gone that route there....but the Cards know a shitload more about arms than I do so I'll withhold judgment for a bit" and it's a pretty nice feeling.

That's where I've gotten with this front office. I'm still going to see things that I'm pretty sure I'd have done differently, but the Chiefs have a good management team right now. The coach/GM work in concert and seem to have a pretty good eye. They are working towards a common goal and seem to have a plan in place. So when they take Morse and I think "well damn, that seems odd", I've at least gotten comfortable enough with this group that I'm willing to see how it works out because I think they had a good reason for doing what they did.
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I agree with you DJ. I really hope Fisher, Ford and some other draft picks like Wilson and Kush show up this year.
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I'm guessing we will see a lot more of Ford this year. They aren't idiots, they didn't pick him in the first to use him like we have seen him used so far. He was a terror his senior season at Auburn and he has plenty of talent
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