Football Jared Goff on Mahomes: "Toughest guy in the NFL to defend, including Brees" - Page 3

BandwagonChiefsFan · 11:32 AM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...s-in-epic-duel

For what it's worth, you can count Goff among the growing legion of Mahomes fans.

"He's incredible," Goff said. "He's the toughest guy in the NFL to defend right now, including Drew (Brees)."

He'll get no argument from Peters, who got a glimpse of Mahomes' potential last year while playing against him in practice.

Did Peters know how ridiculously good the young quarterback was a year ago?

"F--- yeah," Peters said. "It's crazy. He used to throw insane passes in practice without even looking. He's gonna be special. Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Peyton (Manning) -- you name it, he's gonna up there ... right along with Jared Goff."

.

Best22 · 11-22-2018, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75

My concern is the New Orleans Saints, they are good on both sides of the ball.

I’d be very thankful to play a stacked Saints team

Marcellus · 11-22-2018, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22

I’d be very thankful to play a stacked Saints team

No shit, cause it would be in the SB!!!!!

Jerok · 11-22-2018, 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

No shit, cause it would be in the SB!!!!!

No wai!

Chiefshrink · 11-22-2018, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I'd take Goff over Drew Brees.

I wouldn't. Brees accuracy is just amazing and is better than both Goff and Mahomes IMHO and that is not a knock on either Goff or Mahomes. But you can see that Brees is truly in the 'zone' when it comes to accuracy and making the correct reads. Goff said he still struggles with taking his strides to deep on his drops in the pocket which cause him to dirt some balls and we saw that a couple of times Mon night. Mahomes is still learning not to overthrow especially on the med to deep routes.

jaa1025 · 11-23-2018, 12:22 AM

I was actually disappointed watching Goff. He absolutely crumbles against pressure or when he has to play off script. He's playing with the best line and some of the best talent on offense and most of the time, he's got plenty of time and a very good scheme. I now understand why people say he's a system QB.

**HemiEd** · 11-23-2018, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penguinz

They didn’t use Gurley so how can you say he is overrated by watching that game?

Yeah, I have seen games where he dominated. The Chiefs D was set up to stop him I guess.

**petegz28** · 11-23-2018, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Yeah, I have seen games where he dominated. The Chiefs D was set up to stop him I guess.

They said he was battling a bit of an ankle injury

**BigRedChief** · 11-23-2018, 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd

Yeah, I have seen games where he dominated. The Chiefs D was set up to stop him I guess.

His ankle got rolled up on early in the game. It was that play the Chiefs player pushed him out of bounds and then fell on his ankle and legs. He was mainly used as a decoy after that. He is the real deal. He'd kill our D in a rematch unless a healthy Barry is in there helping with the run.

Hydrae · 11-23-2018, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaa1025

I was actually disappointed watching Goff. He absolutely crumbles against pressure or when he has to play off script. He's playing with the best line and some of the best talent on offense and most of the time, he's got plenty of time and a very good scheme. I now understand why people say he's a system QB.

I agree with this. Goff missed a number of passes the other night and seemed to lack a little bit in his accuracy. I saw a "good" QB, not a "great" QB in that game.

Best22 · 11-23-2018, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae

I agree with this. Goff missed a number of passes the other night and seemed to lack a little bit in his accuracy. I saw a "good" QB, not a "great" QB in that game.

“Good” is pretty amazing for a 3rd year starter

Mahomes is just having a ridiculous season

Buckweath · 11-23-2018, 09:53 AM

Goff is very good and will be very good. McVay's system obviously help him but I believe he is very good regardless of that system.

I believe he needs a strong OL though, not Mahomes.

bowener · 11-23-2018, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I'd take Goff over Drew Brees too but not over Patrick Mahomes II

I think Mahomes and Goff are the best two quarterbacks in the league right now. Brees has the better defense and same coach for a long time that they are on the same page. Brees may have a few years left but his time is winding down and his records are going be up for grabs by Sir Patrick Mahomes II

Patrick is going have 500 touchdowns in the least amount of seasons in the 500 club.

I'm not necessarily asking you specifically, but looking ahead about 5 years or so I am intrigued by the future of the NFL. I hope Goff stays as good as he has been this year, and Wentz returns to form so that we get to see those two duke it out in the NFC for years to come. Maybe Trubisky sneaks in there with them.

Just sticking with current NFL QBs, who will be Mahomes' career challenger in a similar vein to Brady and Manning? I want the Browns to succeed, but I don't think Mayfield will ever be elite. Maybe it is Andrew Luck? But he is currently 29 with a serious injury history. I must admit I do find it pleasing to imagine bouncing the Colts from the AFCCG every year. Deshaun Watson? If he can stay healthy and doesn't fall off as he ages and slows down I could see him being a challenger.

R8RFAN · 11-23-2018, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Best22

“Good” is pretty amazing for a 3rd year starter

Mahomes is just having a ridiculous season

Mahomes is gonna do nothing but get better too..

Hate you guys got such a good QB but I will give credit where it's due..... The kid is legit

11-22-2018, 11:22 AM
BandwagonChiefsFan Banned Join Date: Sep 2013 Casino cash: $10005015	Jared Goff on Mahomes: "Toughest guy in the NFL to defend, including Brees" http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...s-in-epic-duel For what it's worth, you can count Goff among the growing legion of Mahomes fans. "He's incredible," Goff said. "He's the toughest guy in the NFL to defend right now, including Drew (Brees)." He'll get no argument from Peters, who got a glimpse of Mahomes' potential last year while playing against him in practice. Did Peters know how ridiculously good the young quarterback was a year ago? "F--- yeah," Peters said. "It's crazy. He used to throw insane passes in practice without even looking. He's gonna be special. Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Peyton (Manning) -- you name it, he's gonna up there ... right along with Jared Goff." . Last edited by BandwagonChiefsFan; 11-22-2018 at 11:32 AM..
Posts: 142

11-23-2018, 12:22 AM	#35
jaa1025 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10000898	I was actually disappointed watching Goff. He absolutely crumbles against pressure or when he has to play off script. He's playing with the best line and some of the best talent on offense and most of the time, he's got plenty of time and a very good scheme. I now understand why people say he's a system QB.
Posts: 2,922	1 0

11-23-2018, 09:53 AM	#41
Buckweath Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $9994975	Goff is very good and will be very good. McVay's system obviously help him but I believe he is very good regardless of that system. I believe he needs a strong OL though, not Mahomes.
Posts: 2,393