Chiefs What an INCREDIBLE season!!! - Page 5

Oh Snap · 01-20-2019, 10:51 PM

Title says it all. I wanted to wait until after the game to hold off on the knee-jerk responses. But I first want to start out with the positives of this game. Patrick Mahomes is going to have the Chiefs in this kind of position for years to come. Did anyone think we would have this type of performance out of him? He has so much raw talent that it has made up for his lack of experience. He needs games like this to get better. And he will improve and be that much more potent!

The defense also played well, especially in the first half. By time late second half rolled around they were gassed from being out on the field most of the first half. The cold didnt help. First half offense just got their butts kicked. There is no way around that. Patriots came to play and they confused Mahomes early and often. They took the Chiefs out of their game plan. They played tight man and were able to bring pressure which disrupted timing. This is where Reid and company dropped the ball IMO.

This offense is predicated on big plays. Mahomes being a home run hitter is always looking to air it out downfield. And thats great if your OL can protect you long enough for the receivers to run those long routes. However, as we saw tonight, the patriots were able to pressure Mahomes often. Especially in the first half. I dont know why Reid and company didnt throw in more screens, slants, short passes to the williams coming out of the backfield or mis-directions against a aggressive defense. They needed to get the ball out of Mahomes hands quicker. Romo pointed this out several times on air. This is why they were held scoreless in the first half. The patriots took the chiefs out of their game-plan.

Defense played great and was clutch until the 4th Qtr. Looking at just the QB stats of both teams, Mahomes outplayed Brady, especially in the second half. Mahomes was 16 of 31 for 295 yards and 3 TDs, to bradys 30 of 46 for 348 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT's (should have been 3, but more on that later). Bradys QB rating was 77 to Mahomes 117. The first half is what killed the Chiefs. They scored 31 points again in the 2nd half after adjustments. But missing williams wide open on a wheel route really came back to bite us. Then Mahomes gets tackled for a loss the very next play taking the Chiefs out of field goal range. Again, you gotta get rid of the ball quicker. Cant take the sack in that situation.

Clock management was an issue. I realize we have a high flying offense. And its fun to watch them get big yardage. But its the 4th Qtr with 3-4 minutes left. The patriots have the most clutch QB in NFL history, and 3 TO's. RUN THE BALL! Take a break from being pass happy for a few downs and MILK THE CLOCK! Im glad they scored, but it was a HUGE mistake to not at least run the ball on a couple downs on that drive. Dont give the most clutch QB in NFL history 3 minutes with 3 TO's to go down and win the game!!! BTW, Someone needs to tell Dee Ford where the neutral zone is! If he positions his hand 6" back from the LOS, the Chiefs win that game by picking brady off for a 3rd time.

Keys to this game were the patriots taking the chiefs out of their game plan early, and the Chiefs failing to answer them when they needed to. Defense had 3 straight attempts of 3rd and 10 in OT. And they couldnt get off the field. Not one sack on Brady either. Dee Ford getting offsides on a brady interception was a killer. Also I think the NFL playoff OT rules suck. Mahomes didnt get a single chance to respond to Brady. Youd think a league that values QB above all other positions would give the other team a chance to respond with a TD.

Why Not? · 01-22-2019, 07:39 AM

I’m not gonna quote any one post because there are many posts throughout multiple threads that caution about Marino. It’s not an accurate comparison. If(once?)Pat gets to a SB in the next year or two and if he loses it, then you can make those comparisons if you must. Right now, it’s about taking the next step and making the SB. I mentioned this on another thread but how many truly great NFL QB’s have never made it to a SB? Not many. They’ll be back.

**Nzoner** · 01-22-2019, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by crayzkirk

Yeah! Participation trophies all around. Woohoo!

Sorry, I'm tired of the excuses.

Regular season success = worse draft picks. People see silver linings and I see grey clouds.

No need to apologize,you're spot on.This team has been yanking some of our chains since the early 90's.If it's not a QB we need a defense if it's not a defense we need a new coach yada yada yada.

I realize Mahomes is the real deal but it doesn't mean the team is guaranteed anything i.e. Marino! I've been thinking wait until next season for a quarter of a century now and I'm not getting any younger!

ClevelandBronco · 01-22-2019, 07:46 AM

Glad to see there’s at least one thread for the emotionally healthy people. The Chiefs kicked ass, amazed most everyone and served notice for the future. You guys should rightly be enjoying yourselves.

**Nzoner** · 01-22-2019, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not?

I’m not gonna quote any one post because there are many posts throughout multiple threads that caution about Marino. It’s not an accurate comparison. If(once?)Pat gets to a SB in the next year or two and if he loses it, then you can make those comparisons if you must. Right now, it’s about taking the next step and making the SB. I mentioned this on another thread but how many truly great NFL QB’s have never made it to a SB? Not many. They’ll be back.

I just referenced him above again but only as being the real deal which I believe Mahomes is so IMO that is an accurate comparison.

Hydrae · 01-22-2019, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner

No need to apologize,you're spot on.This team has been yanking some of our chains since the early 90's.If it's not a QB we need a defense if it's not a defense we need a new coach yada yada yada.

I realize Mahomes is the real deal but it doesn't mean the team is guaranteed anything i.e. Marino! I've been thinking wait until next season for a quarter of a century now and I'm not getting any younger!

But this time I feel actual hope when saying "next year". In the past it has been wishful thinking, even at the time of saying that. This time there are real reasons for that hope and every reason to believe that the future will be even better than this awesome season has been.

It is a great time to be a Chiefs fan and I plan to enjoy the hell out of it!

**Rausch** · 01-22-2019, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

But this time I feel actual hope when saying "next year". In the past it has been wishful thinking, even at the time of saying that. This time there are real reasons for that hope and every reason to believe that the future will be even better than this awesome season has been.

It is a great time to be a Chiefs fan and I plan to enjoy the hell out of it!

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htismaqe · 01-22-2019, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

But this time I feel actual hope when saying "next year". In the past it has been wishful thinking, even at the time of saying that. This time there are real reasons for that hope and every reason to believe that the future will be even better than this awesome season has been.

It is a great time to be a Chiefs fan and I plan to enjoy the hell out of it!

**loochy** · 01-22-2019, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae

But this time I feel actual hope when saying "next year". In the past it has been wishful thinking, even at the time of saying that. This time there are real reasons for that hope and every reason to believe that the future will be even better than this awesome season has been.

It is a great time to be a Chiefs fan and I plan to enjoy the hell out of it!

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Allllllllllllllll this...

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01-20-2019, 10:51 PM
Oh Snap Veteran Join Date: Nov 2005 Casino cash: $9064925	What an INCREDIBLE season!!! Title says it all. I wanted to wait until after the game to hold off on the knee-jerk responses. But I first want to start out with the positives of this game. Patrick Mahomes is going to have the Chiefs in this kind of position for years to come. Did anyone think we would have this type of performance out of him? He has so much raw talent that it has made up for his lack of experience. He needs games like this to get better. And he will improve and be that much more potent! The defense also played well, especially in the first half. By time late second half rolled around they were gassed from being out on the field most of the first half. The cold didnt help. First half offense just got their butts kicked. There is no way around that. Patriots came to play and they confused Mahomes early and often. They took the Chiefs out of their game plan. They played tight man and were able to bring pressure which disrupted timing. This is where Reid and company dropped the ball IMO. This offense is predicated on big plays. Mahomes being a home run hitter is always looking to air it out downfield. And thats great if your OL can protect you long enough for the receivers to run those long routes. However, as we saw tonight, the patriots were able to pressure Mahomes often. Especially in the first half. I dont know why Reid and company didnt throw in more screens, slants, short passes to the williams coming out of the backfield or mis-directions against a aggressive defense. They needed to get the ball out of Mahomes hands quicker. Romo pointed this out several times on air. This is why they were held scoreless in the first half. The patriots took the chiefs out of their game-plan. Defense played great and was clutch until the 4th Qtr. Looking at just the QB stats of both teams, Mahomes outplayed Brady, especially in the second half. Mahomes was 16 of 31 for 295 yards and 3 TDs, to bradys 30 of 46 for 348 yards, 1 TD and 2 INT's (should have been 3, but more on that later). Bradys QB rating was 77 to Mahomes 117. The first half is what killed the Chiefs. They scored 31 points again in the 2nd half after adjustments. But missing williams wide open on a wheel route really came back to bite us. Then Mahomes gets tackled for a loss the very next play taking the Chiefs out of field goal range. Again, you gotta get rid of the ball quicker. Cant take the sack in that situation. Clock management was an issue. I realize we have a high flying offense. And its fun to watch them get big yardage. But its the 4th Qtr with 3-4 minutes left. The patriots have the most clutch QB in NFL history, and 3 TO's. RUN THE BALL! Take a break from being pass happy for a few downs and MILK THE CLOCK! Im glad they scored, but it was a HUGE mistake to not at least run the ball on a couple downs on that drive. Dont give the most clutch QB in NFL history 3 minutes with 3 TO's to go down and win the game!!! BTW, Someone needs to tell Dee Ford where the neutral zone is! If he positions his hand 6" back from the LOS, the Chiefs win that game by picking brady off for a 3rd time. Keys to this game were the patriots taking the chiefs out of their game plan early, and the Chiefs failing to answer them when they needed to. Defense had 3 straight attempts of 3rd and 10 in OT. And they couldnt get off the field. Not one sack on Brady either. Dee Ford getting offsides on a brady interception was a killer. Also I think the NFL playoff OT rules suck. Mahomes didnt get a single chance to respond to Brady. Youd think a league that values QB above all other positions would give the other team a chance to respond with a TD.
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Why Not? In Search of a Life Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Kansas Casino cash: $3168994	I’m not gonna quote any one post because there are many posts throughout multiple threads that caution about Marino. It’s not an accurate comparison. If(once?)Pat gets to a SB in the next year or two and if he loses it, then you can make those comparisons if you must. Right now, it’s about taking the next step and making the SB. I mentioned this on another thread but how many truly great NFL QB’s have never made it to a SB? Not many. They’ll be back.
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ClevelandBronco I'm with the banned. Join Date: Sep 2006 Casino cash: $5658955	Glad to see there’s at least one thread for the emotionally healthy people. The Chiefs kicked ass, amazed most everyone and served notice for the future. You guys should rightly be enjoying yourselves. __________________ "Faith and reason are like two wings on which the human spirit rises to the contemplation of truth ..." – Pope Saint John Paul II
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