2017 QB Draft

[Pitt Gorilla]

The 2017 Draft turned out perfectly for us, clearly (Thank you Bengals et. al). The question is no longer who the best QB from that draft is; it's who is second-best between Watson and Trubisky, as evidenced by threads posing that question on each of their boards.

So, here's my question: Why in God's name did the Bears trade up one spot to take Mitch? What could possibly be the rationale here? There were ZERO other teams dumb enough to trade up to the #2 spot for him, so why not take his inferior ass at #3, especially given the insane amount of draft capital they gave up. I don't get it.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

The big takeaway for me is that the pundits don't know ****-all. Most of the scouts are just guessing, and NFL GM's don't know shit either, really, when it comes to QB.

Mental processing is the most important factor, and there's no way to see that the way college football is played now.

I do think you can tell in a kid's make-up if he's a film rat. If he's not, you have no chance.

Mahomes' ungodly arm talent is an unteachable thing, and his overall athletic ability is high, but it's his brain that should be truly terrifying to the rest of the NFL.

The fact that Trubisky went first tells me nobody knows what the **** they're doing. Watson? He's got heart. His weak arm will be a problem. I don't see him being dominant. I see an Alex Smith type ceiling there. Despite the general consensus of the board, that's an above average NFL starter, but he's not winning multiple Super Bowls. Trubisky I still don't know what he'll be; supposedly he was the most NFL-ready, but that appears to not be the case.

If you read the articles surrounding Mahomes' draft, Reid knew exactly what he had in terms of Pat's football acumen.

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Originally Posted by TLO

The Bills would have ruined Mahomes just like they ruin everything else.

**** Buffalo. And **** the Bills.

Buffalo would be a contender with Mahomes. Mahomes is unable to be ruined by any bad scheme, coaches or lack of talent. Mahomes would make that coach a hall of fame coach.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Some NFL scouting departments believed that PMII was a raw prospect who benefitted from the Air Raid system that couldn't read defenses thus relying on his athletic gifts. thus he was rated as a 2nd to 3rd round prospect.

The articles I've read insinuated that Dorsey was on the fence drafting PMII as a 1st round pick in general.

3 of the 6 on the draft advisory board said 3rd rounder iirc.

I've never read an article saying Dorsey was on the fence at any time during the draft process, got a link?

[wheeler08]

Originally Posted by Hoover

The ONLY thing Mitch has going for him is Nagy IMO.

Perfect coach for their situation. Still - Chicago fans believe their only weakness is at K and TE, and thus bound for a SB, but I think they regress this season and will be at best a wild card team.

I think people are really sleeping on the Packers and the Lions are not awful in that division either. Their schedule isn't easy.

I don’t get the love for the Lions as sleepers this year?? Same with the Bills, I could name about 3 players on that team and they are always letdowns if you ever draft anyone in fantasy from that team. I guess we’ll find out in week 4,
And I’ll be there!

Bears have a helluva battle going on in training camp at kicker. They have Trey Burton at TE

[HemiEd]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

The 2017 Draft turned out perfectly for us, clearly (Thank you Bengals et. al). The question is no longer who the best QB from that draft is; it's who is second-best between Watson and Trubisky, as evidenced by threads posing that question on each of their boards.

So, here's my question: Why in God's name did the Bears trade up one spot to take Mitch? What could possibly be the rationale here? There were ZERO other teams dumb enough to trade up to the #2 spot for him, so why not take his inferior ass at #3, especially given the insane amount of draft capital they gave up. I don't get it.

I questioned it at the time, but having lived in Chicagoland for almost 2 decades I resigned myself to the fact they need to make sure that they threw as much fuel on the offseason fan fire as possible.

It's a business, especially there. They got a lot of pub out of doing all of that.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I mean....

[Pitt Gorilla]

Worse case scenario, some other team moves up to #2 and you’re left drafting Watson or Mahomes.

[lcarus]

So glad its other teams making terrible franchise cementkng decisions and not us. Its a nice change of pace after an eternity of us being one of those teams.

[wazu]

Listening to Trubisky's postgame presser. A meathead spouting cliches. He will never be good.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

The 9 players who were taken before Mahomes.

https://youtu.be/qbjsb4y9lTs
https://youtu.be/4PM37Emufy8

I was just looking at that. I think we win.

Myles Garrett
Mitchell Trubisky
Solomon Thomas*
Leonard Fournette*
Corey Davis*
Jamal Adams
Mike Williams*
Christian McCaffrey*
John Ross

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Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

Watson would be great under Reid too. But still nowhere near Mahomes great.

Nope. Mahomes IS that generational talent you only see once every 30ish years.

[Setsuna]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Why didn’t the Browns or Jags take a QB in the 1st that year??

We haD BLake BORtles! We DIdn'T NEed AnothER QB!

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I was just looking at that. I think we win.

Myles Garrett
Mitchell Trubisky
Solomon Thomas*
Leonard Fournette*
Corey Davis*
Jamal Adams
Mike Williams*
Christian McCaffrey*
John Ross

I wouldn’t trade Mahomes for that whole group of players.

Crazy that basically says he’s worth more than 9 first round picks.

[Frosty]

You want to read some really awful takes about this from tonight? Apparently everyone knew that Watson was going to be a stud (he is?) and Mahomes was a reckless gunslinger who is only good because of Reid.