Mock (10/9)

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Chargem

It's hard to tell how much of this is serious and how much is sarcasm. Clark played a position that is considered "more premium" than Jones, and Clark has been pretty healthy his whole career where as Jones had knee issues and now a groin strain. If he continues to be banged up this season it has to impact his value, plus the whole "takes plays off" thing that got him drafted in the 2nd in the first place. I think given all this a 1st and a 2nd the same year probably isn't likely, unless there is a bidding war?

I know you hated the Clark deal from day 1, I didn't hate it but just thought it was bad business. I can't remember where you stand on PFF but their podcast after the trade mentioned giving up that much for Clark can never be better than just signing a free agent like Trey Flowers or Zadarius Smith and keeping the picks. The irony being the two guys they named currently out playing Clark as well as having cheaper contracts.

If the Chiefs had signed Z Smith then drafted a guy like Greedy in the first, these mocks and drafts would be looking about 10 times better.

I'm neither pro nor anti PFF. I used to find their more 'involved' stats kinda useful in that you could parse through them to reach your own conclusions. Now those cost something ridiculous like $100/mo and the only thing a baseline sub gets you is their player grades (and even then, not broken out on a weekly basis).

So it's harder and harder to see through the fog and know exactly how PFF gets to the conclusions they get to. Frustrating because they actually have some good information if you're willing to pay WAY too much for it.

As it stands, I consider them just another datapoint. Sometimes I find them useful, other times I don't. They're neither garbage, nor are they dispositive. They're the QB Rating of sources - they say something, but not as much as some try to claim.

And yes, here they're absolutely right. The problem with Clark was never even the contract, it was ALWAYS that they gave up the draft capital they gave up and STILL paid him what they did. You cannot justify taking it coming and going there. If you're going to trade for a player and extend him, he'd better be a truly elite player (Mack) or he'd better come at a reasonable cost (Clowney).

You don't give up the farm for a merely good player and then pay him like a great one. It was a horrible decision from the jump and also right in Veach's wheelhouse. Sadly, there aren't a lot of other Veach's out there for Brett to scalp - he's just gonna do what he always does; take what he can get and trudge home.