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Old 11-19-2019, 12:12 AM  
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Official discussion thread on Andy’s late game conservative play calling

It’s a continuing thing from Philly. Why can’t he learn or change?

I and the Chief fans I was with were so pissed off at Andy being conservative again at the end of the game. 2 and 6. You get the 1st down. That’s it, game over. I would be trusting Mahomes to get 6 yards in two tries over trusting our defense.

Almost burned us again just last week. Came close to blowing a another game with conservative play calling.

Come on Andy, your a HOF coach but it’s time to rethink this late game conservative strategy. Trust in Mahomes to get it done.
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:12 AM   #211
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If anyone almost lost us the game last night, it was Honey Badger. Missing the easiest INT of the year lead to a TD that shouldn’t have happened.

He put them back in the game
The 95%+ win probability was after that Honey Badger point blank dropped INT.
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:14 AM   #212
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:56 AM   #213
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Turtleing up late in games is one of the main reasons why Andy Reid can't reliably beat the top teams in the league.

He's piled up a lot of regular season wins in his career, but beating the bottom 2/3 of the league like the Raiders, Chargers, Broncos, Jaguars, Lions etc is not (usually) a problem for Reid.

He has always been a high floor, low ceiling type of coach, and he will be until he changes. (20 years and counting)

We all speculated that maybe Reid could be a high ceiling coach if he had a good QB - well, now he's got the best QB in the NFL, and not much has changed.
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Old 11-20-2019, 12:09 PM   #214
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Here is a polemic for you battered Chiefs fans: Head coaches should be ranked by average playoff wins per season coached.

If you run this analysis for everyone in history who coached more than 5 seasons and won at least 1 playoff game, you get a pretty solid list.

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Rk	Coach	        Yrs	Wins	SB	Avg Plyoff Wins per Season
					
1	Bill Belichick	25	31	6	1.240
2	Joe Gibbs       16	17	3	1.063
3	Bill Walsh      10	10	3	1.000
4	Jimmy Johnson	9	9	2	1.000
5	George Seifert	11	10	2	0.909
6	John Madden	10	9	1	0.900
7	Vince Lombardi	10	9	2	0.900
8	John Harbaugh	12	10	1	0.833
9	Bill Cowher	15	12	1	0.800
10	Mike McCarthy	13	10	1	0.769
11	Mike Holmgren	17	13	1	0.765
12	Pete Carroll	14	10	1	0.714
13	Chuck Noll	23	16	4	0.696
14	Tony Dungy	13	9	1	0.692
15	Tom Landry	29	20	2	0.690
16	Tom Flores      12	8	2	0.667
17	Marv Levy       17	11	0	0.647
18	Mike Tomlin	13	8	1	0.615
19	Sean Payton	13	8	1	0.615
20	Tom Coughlin	20	12	2	0.600
21	Bill Parcells	19	11	2	0.579
22	Don Shula	33	19	2	0.576
23	Andy Reid       21	12	0	0.571
I feel like this works because you have to coach more than 5 years to be in the conversation, so coattail riders like Barry Switzer are out. From there you're measured only on how you produce in the playoffs.

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Josh Brisco has a great article on the Athletic. We are really bad when we have a high % chance of winning and really good when we have a low % chance.

I'd add to that mahomes being significantly worse when up 9 - 16 pts. On every single stat.

We are a different team when we have a lead. Maybe it's playcalling. Maybe it's mentality. Maybe something else. But it's something. Good field, bad field. Altitude, no altitude. We have mostly been consistently bad in these situations.
yeah, I’d like to see an in-depth breakdown as to why it’s happening.
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Old 11-21-2019, 04:57 AM   #216
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Josh Brisco has a great article on the Athletic. We are really bad when we have a high % chance of winning and really good when we have a low % chance.

I'd add to that mahomes being significantly worse when up 9 - 16 pts. On every single stat.

We are a different team when we have a lead. Maybe it's playcalling. Maybe it's mentality. Maybe something else. But it's something. Good field, bad field. Altitude, no altitude. We have mostly been consistently bad in these situations.

I can’t believe people can still wear blind homer glasses after all we’ve seen.

It’s great to support the Chiefs, and to cheer for them. Don’t lie to yourself or to others when defending Reid’s team tendencies. They are WELL documented.
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Old 11-21-2019, 08:57 PM   #218
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There’s the last 3rd down. Kelce picks it up if hardman just gets in the dbs way
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