Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs *****The Willie Gay Jr. Thread*****
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
Page 54 of 54 « First 44450515253 54
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-24-2020, 07:30 PM  
Dante84 Dante84 is offline
Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs
 
Dante84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: ATX & OPKS
Casino cash: $-1998004
VARSITY
*****The Willie Gay Jr. Thread*****
More to come!
Spoiler!
Last edited by Dante84; 09-11-2020 at 03:29 PM..
Posts: 20,454
Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Dante84 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2025, 03:54 PM   #796
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $-790901
Quote:
Originally Posted by kccrow View Post
We both know that comparing Wilson in coverage to Bolton in coverage is foolish DJ. Completely different responsibilities, especially man assignments on TEs and slots, at different positions.
That's why I didn't lead off with stats - I simply spoke to some of what you offered. I don't know that they're all that useful, regardless of the source. As you noted, everything's different team to team.

I just don't see Wilson as being an elite coverage backer. I think that Cincy defense has been fair to middlin' most of his career and at its apex it had Bell and Bates on the back end (which helps your backers a fair bit) not to mention Germaine Pratt who has been a reasonably effective complement in coverage to Wilson in some of those seasons (and a complete mess last year).

And I think it may turn out that the Bengals bought high on both players who were more complementary than they'd like.

It's a real big year for both guys and both entering their age 29 seasons aren't exactly on the upswing anymore.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 66,809
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2025, 03:57 PM   #797
crispystl crispystl is offline
MVP
 
crispystl's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jun 2004
Casino cash: $-2114860
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
Right.

At $8 million I don't think anyone's eager to grab him.

But at less than we tendered Jack ****ing Cochran for? Why the hell isn't he already here?

He's an NFL player and a top 5% athlete for his position. He's nothing resembling a perfect player, but he has a role.
He would absolutely nuke some of those passes to the RBs in the flats that kicked our ass so bad this year too.
Posts: 7,217
crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.crispystl Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2025, 04:01 PM   #798
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is offline
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $-790901
Quote:
Originally Posted by crispystl View Post
He would absolutely nuke some of the passes to the RBs in the flats that kicked our ass so bad this year too.
Sometimes you need a little crazy on your defense.

It'll make you pull your hair out at times, but that sort of reckless abandon has a purpose of its own.

I've talked about that with stolen bases in baseball before. A guy that's merely a threat to run is sometimes worth the out he creates on occasion by trying to take an extra bag or getting thrown out. Oh sure, there's a breaking point (typically around 70% success, IMO) but I think a guy that goes out there and steals 60 bases on 80 attempts is more impactful than someone who steals 25 on 30 attempts.

The latter has a better success rate but the former is in the back of your mind whenever you're making a pitch.

Now, you can't have EVERYONE out there giving outs away. But having one that makes the opposition think is worth having.

You can't have a team full of Willie Gay kinda players. But having one out there that might just knock you into next week if you don't have your head around AS you're catching the ball? That's worth something.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 66,809
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2025, 04:07 PM   #799
Chris Meck Chris Meck is offline
MVP
 
Chris Meck's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Casino cash: $-1315090
Quote:
Originally Posted by kccrow View Post
The mental aspect is the main reason he didn't get re-signed. What makes you think that Spags would want him back? I mean, I get it if it's a special team signing primarily but that means he'd need to sign a VSB deal and I don't know that he will see himself as that.

I think he's signing with Miami anyhow so it will be moot.
He's a great 4th LB with some specific abilities. If he's inexpensive, you absolutely do that. You need depth, and he's experienced depth with years in the system.

Now, if Spags doesn't want him back, whatever. But he's not less useful because you didn't like the pick in the first place. As a cheap depth signing, he's a great option.
Posts: 19,458
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2025, 05:02 PM   #800
Mecca Mecca is offline
Hockey Town
 
Mecca's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Casino cash: $-652950
It's pretty obvious the Chiefs had no interest in bringing him back.
Posts: 115,346
Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.Mecca is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2025, 09:55 AM   #801
jjchieffan jjchieffan is online now
Supporter
 
jjchieffan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Highlandville, MO
Casino cash: $-57752
I guess that I just suck at evaluation or there's something that we just don't know. The Saints had no interest in bringing him back cheap. The Chiefs had no interest in bringing him back cheap. He signed with the Dolphins supposedly cheap. I can't find any numbers, but it sounds like he likely signed for league minimum or not much more. At that price, I don't see why he couldn't have returned to KC. Something just doesn't add up
__________________
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth. Following the historical accounts and the genealogy from that point on, the age of the Earth is approximately 6000-7000 years old. The Big Bullshit Theory is a lie. It and the evolution theory go against real science. Satan has used our public school system to brainwash everyone into believing these lies. Be not decieved.
Posts: 13,346
jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.jjchieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2025, 09:59 AM   #802
nychief nychief is offline
MVP
 
nychief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: NYC
Casino cash: $5369466
Good draft for LBers and DL... I suspect we are going to have defense heavy draft.
__________________
Good Time Charlie, Uncle Doobie and the Great Frisco Freakout.
Posts: 8,165
nychief would the whole thing.nychief would the whole thing.nychief would the whole thing.nychief would the whole thing.nychief would the whole thing.nychief would the whole thing.nychief would the whole thing.nychief would the whole thing.nychief would the whole thing.nychief would the whole thing.nychief would the whole thing.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2025, 10:05 AM   #803
ThaVirus ThaVirus is offline
5 o’clock free crack giveaway
 
ThaVirus's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2007
Casino cash: $-1767631
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjchieffan View Post
I guess that I just suck at evaluation or there's something that we just don't know. The Saints had no interest in bringing him back cheap. The Chiefs had no interest in bringing him back cheap. He signed with the Dolphins supposedly cheap. I can't find any numbers, but it sounds like he likely signed for league minimum or not much more. At that price, I don't see why he couldn't have returned to KC. Something just doesn't add up
He might be difficult to deal with.

We forget that the coaches have to be in the facility with these guys for like 50 hours a week during the season. Talent and ability will take you far but in a league where a lot of that is equal, I’d choose the guy I get along with 10 times out of 10.
Posts: 47,019
ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.ThaVirus is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2025, 10:24 AM   #804
Deberg_1990 Deberg_1990 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Deberg_1990's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Antonio Tx.
Casino cash: $164454
Quote:
Originally Posted by jjchieffan View Post
I guess that I just suck at evaluation or there's something that we just don't know. The Saints had no interest in bringing him back cheap. The Chiefs had no interest in bringing him back cheap. He signed with the Dolphins supposedly cheap. I can't find any numbers, but it sounds like he likely signed for league minimum or not much more. At that price, I don't see why he couldn't have returned to KC. Something just doesn't add up
There’s alot of stuff we the public are not privy to.

Maybe the guys they have now practice harder or are better in the classroom? Maybe the coaches just like their personalities better? Who knows?
__________________
Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning:

Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down.

One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
Posts: 68,615
Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2025, 11:44 AM   #805
Kman34 Kman34 is offline
My Mamma Says
 
Kman34's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Glass Cage Of Emotion
Casino cash: $-1878214
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 View Post
There’s alot of stuff we the public are not privy to.

Maybe the guys they have now practice harder or are better in the classroom? Maybe the coaches just like their personalities better? Who knows?
Maybe Spaggs loves vacuums and sees Gay as an abuser..
__________________
SFC... Stay ****ing Calm..
Posts: 15,140
Kman34 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Kman34 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Kman34 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Kman34 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Kman34 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Kman34 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Kman34 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Kman34 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Kman34 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Kman34 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Kman34 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2025, 04:29 PM   #806
KCJake KCJake is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Aug 2003
Casino cash: $505775
WTF. I swear I read that we signed him????????? I need to stay off tiktoc
Posts: 4,906
KCJake must have mowed badgirl's lawn.KCJake must have mowed badgirl's lawn.KCJake must have mowed badgirl's lawn.KCJake must have mowed badgirl's lawn.KCJake must have mowed badgirl's lawn.KCJake must have mowed badgirl's lawn.KCJake must have mowed badgirl's lawn.KCJake must have mowed badgirl's lawn.KCJake must have mowed badgirl's lawn.KCJake must have mowed badgirl's lawn.KCJake must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2025, 05:03 PM   #807
notorious notorious is offline
Supporter
 
notorious's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2005
Location: Who knows?
Casino cash: $-914116
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kman34 View Post
Maybe Spaggs loves vacuums and sees Gay as an abuser..
Spags was a traveling vacuum salesman before becoming a coach.
Posts: 88,575
notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.notorious is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 54 of 54 « First 44450515253 54

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:56 PM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.