***15 November Chiefsless NFL Football Game Discussion Thread***

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Discuss

Edit: go The Bengals and The Broncos not The Raiders

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by New World Order

Lamar was incredible last year. He deserved it.

I like my MVP QBs to be able to throw the ball.

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by carcosa

I can't imagine anything topping that Chiefs-Seahawks game like 22 years ago

I was at a Chiefs/Bears preseason Monday night game in '96 that was the same way. I couldn't have been any wetter had I been swimming in nearby Lake Michigan.

The funny thing was I remember my buddy and I were completely miserable until we just said **** it and gave up even attempting to stay dry under the various items of overpowered plastic we had. After that, it was okay. It was August, and while it was raining buckets it wasn't cold.

They actually stopped and then cancelled the game in the third quarter due to nearby lightning strikes. That was the first time I ever saw a game get called early because of weather. Of course it was only preseason.

Before the game started I got Marcus Allen's autograph on the bill of my hat. It was in a bag with my wallet; the only two things on my person that night that remained dry.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

History repeats it's self, so the young can learn & the old renew shame

[crispystl]

I knew Bill would give Lamar a ton of trouble.

[NWTF]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I like my MVP QBs to be able to throw the ball.

that helps when you fall behind.

Lamar is 0-6 when facing a deficit of 10+ points. 10 point deficits shouldnt be a death sentence with the Baltimore D.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by crispystl

I knew Bill would give Lamar a ton of trouble.

Honestly it felt to me like the rain was giving the Ravens more trouble than Belichick's defense. Lot of dropped balls, and I'm sure Lamar was having a tough time throwing it in the poor conditions as well. Last year, Lamar torched Belichick's defense.

[Megatron96]

Actually, Lamar isn't that bad against NE.

Last season BAL won, and Lamar posted decent QB numbers:
17/23 163 yds 7.1yds/a 1TD 0 INT 1 sacked 84.9 QBR 107.7 PRTG

Okay, not great, but a ton of 2nd year QBs have done much, much worse against Bill.

In last night's game during a literal monsoon, he posted:
24/34 249yds 70.6 CMP% 7.3 yds/a 2TDs 1 INT 68.3 QBR 98.8 PRTG

Again, not great, but not really bad either, especially considering the weather conditions which were very close to unplayable. And Lamar had at least three passes that hit receivers between the numbers that were dropped, so his completion% should've been somewhere around 80%, in a wind tunnel filled with flying buckets of water.

My point is that Lamar may not be a great QB, but he is one of the few young QBs that has played against NE and Bill's defense and not really lost much efficiency.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Honestly it felt to me like the rain was giving the Ravens more trouble than Belichick's defense. Lot of dropped balls, and I'm sure Lamar was having a tough time throwing it in the poor conditions as well. Last year, Lamar torched Belichick's defense.

Agreed.

Given the weather, I'd say the Baltimore D was the least impressive part of their team last night. They really should not have been handled by that offense.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Actually, Lamar isn't that bad against NE.

Last season BAL won, and Lamar posted decent QB numbers:
17/23 163 yds 7.1yds/a 1TD 0 INT 1 sacked 84.9 QBR 107.7 PRTG

Okay, not great, but a ton of 2nd year QBs have done much, much worse against Bill.

In last night's game during a literal monsoon, he posted:
24/34 249yds 70.6 CMP% 7.3 yds/a 2TDs 1 INT 68.3 QBR 98.8 PRTG

Again, not great, but not really bad either, especially considering the weather conditions which were very close to unplayable. And Lamar had at least three passes that hit receivers between the numbers that were dropped, so his completion% should've been somewhere around 80%, in a wind tunnel filled with flying buckets of water.

My point is that Lamar may not be a great QB, but he is one of the few young QBs that has played against NE and Bill's defense and not really lost much efficiency.

The QBR numbers look pretty great to me. 68/100 in terrible weather is excellent. Brady won MVP a few years ago while averaging about 71/100 per game. The 85/100 QBR for Lamar last year is downright awesome, especially since Belichick had the best defense in the league at full strength compared to all the COVID quitters this year. 85/100 QBR is similar to what Lamar averaged for the entire season as MVP.

[RedRaider56]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Honestly it felt to me like the rain was giving the Ravens more trouble than Belichick's defense. Lot of dropped balls, and I'm sure Lamar was having a tough time throwing it in the poor conditions as well. Last year, Lamar torched Belichick's defense.

Baltimore got pretty beat up in the injury department last night didn't they?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RedRaider56

Baltimore got pretty beat up in the injury department last night didn't they?

Yep. Doyle is done. Campbell is out. Wolfe got dinged up, which is usual for him.

They had virtually zero injuries last year. They were due, honestly.

[RedRaider56]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yep. Doyle is done. Campbell is out. Wolfe got dinged up, which is usual for him.

They had virtually zero injuries last year. They were due, honestly.

Agreed.

I think you meant Boyle. His knee injury looked horrific.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RedRaider56

Agreed.

I think you meant Boyle. His knee injury looked horrific.

Yeah, autocorrect.