On Record: Your Acceptable Round 1 Trade Up Moves - Page 2

Dante84 · 01:47 AM

Disclaimer: I’m not actively encouraging a trade up - I’m merely taking a temp check on which players wouldn’t freak you out if Veach decides to climb.

Rules:

This is only for players you would be content or happy with trading up for.
Do not put players you would be concerned with or worried about.
Do not put players who have 0% chance of being available.
Only list the player once, at the highest acceptable slot.
Assume standard/appropriate compensation for the move up when making your decision
I deliberately left 26-30 off the chart, since compensation would be minimal, and you'd likely trust Veach for a small jump up.

1-5:
6-10:
11-15:
16-20:
21-25:

htismaqe · 04-22-2021, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I'm not second guessing anything Veach does in the draft until the end of the season.

If he trades up, it'll be because he loves a guy.

We'll have to see how it shakes out before we judge it.

That's the only reasonable take, really.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Or takes a RB in the first round again.

Even then, I'm not going to freak out. I'm just past that part of my fandom. I honestly didn't think I'd ever see them draft a QB and win a Super Bowl. My Chiefs bucket list is pretty much full at this point.

Dante84 · 04-22-2021, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men

I thought this was a hypothetical game lol?

It is! Not judging at all. Just asking - are you okay with using that amount of ammo for that move? Hell, I'd love those guys too. I'd freak out a bit if we spent that much though.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-22-2021, 12:11 PM

None.

I just don't think this draft is worth trading up in the first round. So many guys have questions, some with limited experience. It's not like they'd be trading up for a Jonathan Ogden or Anthony Munoz and hell, there's a good chance that some of these guys won't even play as well as Eric Fisher in his rookie season, which was atrocious.

The NFLPA is pushing hard for guys to not show up for voluntary workouts while also pushing for a completely virtual offseason, meaning no OTA's or minicamps, which would be a further setback for an offensive tackle.

I mean, I guess if their "guy" is sitting there at 29 and all they need to do is throw in a 4th, fine. But I am firmly against trading a 1st, 2nd or 3rd round pick, whether it's this year or next year, only to draft a tackle with question marks.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-22-2021, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Even then, I'm not going to freak out. I'm just past that part of my fandom. I honestly didn't think I'd ever see them draft a QB and win a Super Bowl. My Chiefs bucket list is pretty much full at this point.

Najee Harris would not freak me out in the least.

I'd be super surprised if he's on their radar but it wouldn't bother me because that guy in this offense would be absolutely insane, IMO.

Direckshun · 04-22-2021, 12:20 PM

I would probably go up and get Darrisaw and Oweh, if they fell to the lower teens.

Just: make sure all the picks you trade are 2021 picks, and not 2022 picks. 2021 picks are worth about half of what 2022 picks are going to be worth.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-22-2021, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I would probably go up and get Darrisaw and Oweh, if they fell to the lower teens.

Just: make sure all the picks you trade are 2021 picks, and not 2022 picks. 2021 picks are worth about half of what 2022 picks are going to be worth.

Just about every draft analyst has stated that 2022 picks will be far more valuable than 2021 picks due to the uncertainty of the talent pool available this year.

There are way too many question marks surrounding a good portion of this year's draftees for varying reasons, so there's no way I'm giving up a 1st, 2nd or 3rd this year for a guy that's going to change positions or has any type of health issues or a serious lack of experience.

Next year's draft looks to be loaded. The Chiefs shouldn't give up additional picks due to need. That's dumb.

In58men · 04-22-2021, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84

It is! Not judging at all. Just asking - are you okay with using that amount of ammo for that move? Hell, I'd love those guys too. I'd freak out a bit if we spent that much though.

No, I wouldn’t move up that high especially for TE.

But if that football logo on the bottom of the screen changes to KC, I’d say “it better be for Kyle Pitts and nobody else”

kccrow · 04-22-2021, 08:02 PM

1-5: You'd have to be a lunatic.
6-10: Sewell if he fell to 10.
11-15: None
16-20: Darrisaw
21-25: Owusu-Koramoah

Urc Burry · 04-22-2021, 08:05 PM

I would trade up 5-7 spots for Bateman... maybe a pass rusher. But don’t want to give up a ton of ammunition

Coogs · 04-23-2021, 06:10 AM

https://gbnreport.com/2015-nfl-draft...e-value-chart/

It would cost our 3rd to get up to 25.
3rd+ to get up to 19.
2nd to get up to 19.
2nd+3rd to get up to 16.

Pass for me on the trade ups.

kccrow · 04-23-2021, 07:36 AM

This version of the trade chart is highly accurate with reality.

https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp

The value of a future pick tends to be at the mid-point of the next round, so a 2022 1st would be about 121 points (pick 48).

04-22-2021, 12:44 AM
Dante84 Tossed Salad & Scrambled Eggs Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ATX & OPKS Casino cash: $-1888004 VARSITY	On Record: Your Acceptable Round 1 Trade Up Moves Disclaimer: I’m not actively encouraging a trade up - I’m merely taking a temp check on which players wouldn’t freak you out if Veach decides to climb. Rules: This is only for players you would be content or happy with trading up for. Do not put players you would be concerned with or worried about. Do not put players who have 0% chance of being available. Only list the player once, at the highest acceptable slot. Assume standard/appropriate compensation for the move up when making your decision I deliberately left 26-30 off the chart, since compensation would be minimal, and you'd likely trust Veach for a small jump up. 1-5: 6-10: 11-15: 16-20: 21-25: Last edited by Dante84; 04-22-2021 at 01:47 AM..
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04-22-2021, 12:11 PM	#18
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	None. I just don't think this draft is worth trading up in the first round. So many guys have questions, some with limited experience. It's not like they'd be trading up for a Jonathan Ogden or Anthony Munoz and hell, there's a good chance that some of these guys won't even play as well as Eric Fisher in his rookie season, which was atrocious. The NFLPA is pushing hard for guys to not show up for voluntary workouts while also pushing for a completely virtual offseason, meaning no OTA's or minicamps, which would be a further setback for an offensive tackle. I mean, I guess if their "guy" is sitting there at 29 and all they need to do is throw in a 4th, fine. But I am firmly against trading a 1st, 2nd or 3rd round pick, whether it's this year or next year, only to draft a tackle with question marks.
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04-22-2021, 12:20 PM	#20
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2093447	I would probably go up and get Darrisaw and Oweh, if they fell to the lower teens. Just: make sure all the picks you trade are 2021 picks, and not 2022 picks. 2021 picks are worth about half of what 2022 picks are going to be worth.
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04-22-2021, 08:02 PM	#23
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1110000	1-5: You'd have to be a lunatic. 6-10: Sewell if he fell to 10. 11-15: None 16-20: Darrisaw 21-25: Owusu-Koramoah
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04-22-2021, 08:05 PM	#24
Urc Burry Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Casino cash: $8621048	I would trade up 5-7 spots for Bateman... maybe a pass rusher. But don’t want to give up a ton of ammunition
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04-23-2021, 06:10 AM	#25
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2085651	https://gbnreport.com/2015-nfl-draft...e-value-chart/ It would cost our 3rd to get up to 25. 3rd+ to get up to 19. 2nd to get up to 19. 2nd+3rd to get up to 16. Pass for me on the trade ups.
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04-23-2021, 07:36 AM	#26
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1110000	This version of the trade chart is highly accurate with reality. https://www.drafttek.com/NFL-Trade-V...-Rich-Hill.asp The value of a future pick tends to be at the mid-point of the next round, so a 2022 1st would be about 121 points (pick 48).
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