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Old 05-27-2021, 11:17 AM  
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Dean Spanos forced to sell Chargers?

This is amazing.

Imagine owning a company that prints money for every other owner, in a stadium you didn't even build and still you bounce charity checks.


Watch Jeff Bezos buy this team and move it back to San Diego where he doesn't have to rent out a stadium to a competitor. This is all over the radio in LA right now.


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Old 06-01-2021, 12:01 PM   #121
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2397151

Kansas City OKs sales tax for sports renovations

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Voters on Tuesday split on a pair of measures to pay for upgrades to Kansas City's sports stadiums, approving a sales tax for renovations but rejecting a plan for a rolling roof to make both facilities climate-controlled. The measures in Jackson County were designed to raise more than $500 million to renovate Kauffman Stadium, where baseball's Kansas City Royals play, and Arrowhead Stadium, the home of the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs.

Voters supporting the tax increases feared the teams might leave without the improvements. Opponents decried giving aid to millionaire team owners. A three-eighth-cent sales tax will raise $425 million over 25 years to renovate the stadiums and add such amenities as a pavilion behind the baseball stadium.

A separate user tax would have generated about $200 million for the rolling roof. With all precincts reporting, the sales tax won by about 5,000 votes, while the roof plan failed by under 4,000 votes. The teams' owners have pledged, together, more than $125 million toward the renovations.
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Later, The Hunt Family threw in nearly $100 million more for renovations out of their own pocket.

I clearly remember when this happened because the first time I rented a car while visiting in 2009, I couldn't ****ing believe the taxes! I paid like $199 for an SUV for the week but paid like $150 in taxes alone.

From that perspective, I totally understand why a city like San Diego, which thrives via tourism, would reject a car rental and hotel tax to build a stadium for the shitty-ass Spanos family.
The article you quoted confirms the content of my post.

The rental car tax you paid was raising money for the Sprint Center. The stadium renovations were funded by the 3/8th cents sales tax.
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Old 06-01-2021, 12:14 PM   #122
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It's never going to happen in Los Angeles for the Chargers. They're not a Los Angeles team and they'll never be a Los Angeles team.

As I mentioned earlier, the unlike the Tennessee Titans or Indianapolis Colts or Baltimore Ravens, the Chargers aren't filling a void. 100,000 fans routinely pack the Coliseum for USC games and more than 90,000 routinely pack the Rose Bowl for UCLA games. 35,000+ show up at Dodgers stadium every game and Staples is packed for the Lakers. The city is excited about the Rams at Sofi but no one even speaks of the Chargers because no one cares.

There's just no passion for the Chargers in Los Angeles and even if there was a little passion, most people would rather sit at a bar on the beach and watch them on TV as opposed to shelling out $500-$1000 dollars to sit in a stadium filled with opposing fans.

That franchise is ****ed.
That sucks for them and the franchise as it doesn't look like there is much of a solution for them at this point.
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Old 06-01-2021, 12:47 PM   #123
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The article you quoted confirms the content of my post.

The rental car tax you paid was raising money for the Sprint Center. The stadium renovations were funded by the 3/8th cents sales tax.
Yeah, I posted it for people that were unfamiliar with the taxation because we have many members that don't live in KC.

Again, it's totally understandable why the people of San Diego opposed a car rental and hotel tax.

I personally have no interest in paying for a rental car at MCI ever again because it's just a complete waste of money for someone visiting family.
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Old 06-01-2021, 01:11 PM   #124
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If I remember correctly, Spanos never really believed his downtown stadium idea would actually work. He proposed it knowing it would get turned down so he could use that as a reason to move.

The idea of building a downtown stadium in the area he proposed was laughable to San Diegans. Traffic is utterly ****ed in that area as is and the idea of building a stadium there for years and making the people pay for it themselves was never going to pass.

And good for them for standing up to an insincere fake rich guy but also they lost their football team because of it.

Dean Spanos is trash
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Old 06-01-2021, 01:16 PM   #125
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Yeah, I posted it for people that were unfamiliar with the taxation because we have many members that don't live in KC.

Again, it's totally understandable why the people of San Diego opposed a car rental and hotel tax.

I personally have no interest in paying for a rental car at MCI ever again because it's just a complete waste of money for someone visiting family.
Yes, Sprint Center has been worth it for KC even though no NHL or NBA team, just because nearly every concert tour has a show there.

The rental car taxes are too high. Not sure if the Sprint Center one sunsets soon.
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Old 06-01-2021, 01:29 PM   #126
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The Rams are constantly rebuilding, which is to say, they're constantly trying to improve the team through trades and the draft. Giving up 1st and 2nd round picks for players is nothing for them.

Swapping Goff for Stafford is a massive upgrade for the Rams. They have a good offensive line, some nice skill position players and a great defense.
The Rams definitely have some potential. I don't follow them that close so I did hedge a bit when I said I supposed they would be looking at a rebuild in the not so distant future.

I was thinking they were probably facing salary cap issues but may be not and perhaps they haven't mortgaged as much of their future as I thought in draft picks.

Of course it all turns on how long Stafford plays and at what level.
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