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**Rain Man** · 10:54 PM

Gblowfish asked me to write up a select number of observations about the recent American football matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and the New York Football Giants. Since there seems to be a lot of Chiefs fans on the site, I thought it sounded like a good idea.

My observations follow. Most of them are things you already know, but I'm saying them so we can agree on them and build a shared culture.

Observation I: Quarterback. Patrick Mahomes II is the alpha and the omega of the offense, and we saw something new and something that’s not new against the Giants.

The new thing is that he stayed in the pocket more early in the game, and it seemed to work pretty well. In the second half it seems that he abandoned that strategy and things didn’t go so well. I don’t know if the pocket thing is good news or not, but we know that he’s historically been great outside the pocket and we need him to either recapture that or stay put. My other worry is that staying in the pocket minimizes his ability to run, which is another huge strength. I don’t know if this whole “stay in the pocket” thing is a good idea. Maybe we should just let Patrick Mahomes work off of his instinct.

The thing we’re seeing that’s not so new is a continued lack of accuracy. He’s regressed from being able to launch a ball into a teacup from 70 yards away to overthrowing receivers or putting the ball into the dirt. The accuracy thing is our season, so let’s hope he gets that straightened out.

Observation II: Running Backs. I like Darrel, you like Darrel, heck we all like Darrel. But the truth is that he’s averaging 3.5 yards per carry. He’s reliable and I don't worry when he has the ball, but it may be worth giving that Gore kid some more work on first and second down. I'll give Darrel props for the 61 yards receiving, though. Would it be odd to make our biggest back our third down back?

And McKinnon, catch the dang ball. I know it was fast, but it's your job.

Observation III: Receivers and tight ends.In a rough season so far, Tyreek continues to be our shining beacon of hope. He got 18 targets yesterday and I wouldn’t mind him getting more. I’m also in awe of his ability to always get four more yards with no contact when you think he’s about to get tackled. Tyreek also always gets four more yards after you think he's tackled, and no one touches him.

In other receiver news, we’ll politely ignore the Kelce fumble since it was such an outlier, and I think Mecole’s just a gadget player, but he’s a good one if used right. Give him simple plays where he runs fast, and he’ll go Forrest Gump for you.

Observation IV: Offensive line. The television people put up a scary stat that pretty much says it all. The Chiefs are 32nd in blitzes against us, but 6th in overall pressures allowed. These guys have to pass protect better. Trey Smith’s fumble recovery continues to bolster his case for league MVP this year, but he drew a penalty that will hurt a lot. If you’re a right guard, you have to be completely mistake-free to win the league MVP title.

Observation V: Special teams. Butker! I like that guy a lot. In other news, we had some odd special teams penalties with Nnadi and Jarran Reed getting called, and we also had a fight with Andrew Wylie and maybe someone else tussling. The lines were active on special teams, I guess. I saw another guy on the field at some point during the game who is apparently our punter. No idea he existed.

Observation VI: Defensive backs. If I ever see Daniel Sorensen, I will give him a big hug for 2019. But right now he’s a sieve. I don’t think he should be playing deep. Aside from that, the rest of the defensive backs either played well (most or all of the CBs) or were not a liability (I think Matthieu played, right?)

Observation VII: Linebackers. No other linebacker should ever touch the field unless Bolton and Gay are already on the field and they need a third.

Observation VIII: Defensive line. (Chris Farley voice.) Remember that play where Chris Jones crashed through the line, then lost sight of the running back and actually turned around trying to find him? That was awesome. (/Farley).

The lack of a pass rush is going to kill us this year. We saw a couple of flashes of Frank, which is cause for hope. Why did we cut Tim Ward again? And I know we've said this a million times, but Chris Jones is a DT.

Observation IX. Turnovers. You have to be kidding me. This first half of the season has had more fluke turnovers than a pod of breaching whales. Trust me – it’s going to turn around at some point and we’ll secure a playoff spot. From there, it’ll be magic.

Observation X: Random observation. I never thought about this before, but time outs are magical because they actually stop the passage of time.

Gary Cooper · 11-03-2021, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63

That stupid razzle dazzle bullshit that failed AGAIN at the 2nd and goal pissed me off so bad. I think it took until late 4th for me to stop thinking about it.

Yeah. A team leading the league in turnovers is doing behind the back passes. Great idea.

**Buehler445** · 11-03-2021, 12:15 PM

Thanks for the writeup RM.

It is a weird time to try and figure out what this team is. The same players that were remarkably consistent for 3 years, are now not. I've heard a bunch of reasons why but most of them are markedly wrong. I really don't know what the answer is.

kccrow · 11-03-2021, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Gibbons

No, it equals 10, not 8.
Remember your math orders of operation.

The numerator equals (16-4)*2) = 12 *2 = 24
The denominator is 6
24/6 =4
4+6 =10

Thus, it is 10 things, not 8 when the correct orders of operation are applied.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace

RM corrected the title.

This. lol. I may have forgot alot related to my undergrad in mathematics but order of ops is not one of them. And, most people don't know wtf a factorial is or how to compute it if they can't even grasp order of ops.

kccrow · 11-03-2021, 02:50 PM

BTW Rainman, I did observe quite a bit of the same. So on your points...

I don't want to pollute this thread with an argument that needs to go in another but Pat still needs to stop forcing and stop watching the rush, the Chiefs need to run the ball a tad more, and they need to execute the short passing game which relates to the first point.

I like what I saw from the RBs in this game quite a bit. Wish they were a bit more explosive but they aren't those RBs.

We need a major overhaul at the WR position if possible in the offseason sans Reek of course. I think Kelce is knicked up and there is nothing behind him. It might be time to start thinking about that more heavily.

Pat still doesn't put faith in Brown at LT. Brown didn't play too bad but it was the Giants. The Packers have a solid pass rush coming this week, so we'll see what happens. Pat needs to look up field and keep working on stepping up and hopefully the issue starts to correct itself. If it doesn't get fixed by year end, you have to start thinking a change at LT is a must just to get Pat right.

Sorensen is, indeed, still shit. Easy coverage to play and he gives up a 5 yard TD he had no business being out of position on. Just terrible. I just don't understand playing him right now, at all. Put Watts out there. Bring up a rookie. Anything.

Turnovers and Penalties are absolutely killing this team and it all most cost them against a cellar team.

**Rain Man** · 11-03-2021, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

I'm going to be honest with you, because you deserve it.

The passage of time actually continues while a time out is in effect. The only thing it stops is game clock.

Interesting theory. I'm going to watch my wife during the next time out to see if she stops moving.

11-02-2021, 10:39 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-672449 VARSITY	*((2^4)-4)2!)/6+6 observations about the Giants game Gblowfish asked me to write up a select number of observations about the recent American football matchup between the Kansas City Chiefs and the New York Football Giants. Since there seems to be a lot of Chiefs fans on the site, I thought it sounded like a good idea. My observations follow. Most of them are things you already know, but I'm saying them so we can agree on them and build a shared culture. Observation I: Quarterback. Patrick Mahomes II is the alpha and the omega of the offense, and we saw something new and something that’s not new against the Giants. The new thing is that he stayed in the pocket more early in the game, and it seemed to work pretty well. In the second half it seems that he abandoned that strategy and things didn’t go so well. I don’t know if the pocket thing is good news or not, but we know that he’s historically been great outside the pocket and we need him to either recapture that or stay put. My other worry is that staying in the pocket minimizes his ability to run, which is another huge strength. I don’t know if this whole “stay in the pocket” thing is a good idea. Maybe we should just let Patrick Mahomes work off of his instinct. The thing we’re seeing that’s not so new is a continued lack of accuracy. He’s regressed from being able to launch a ball into a teacup from 70 yards away to overthrowing receivers or putting the ball into the dirt. The accuracy thing is our season, so let’s hope he gets that straightened out. Observation II: Running Backs. I like Darrel, you like Darrel, heck we all like Darrel. But the truth is that he’s averaging 3.5 yards per carry. He’s reliable and I don't worry when he has the ball, but it may be worth giving that Gore kid some more work on first and second down. I'll give Darrel props for the 61 yards receiving, though. Would it be odd to make our biggest back our third down back? And McKinnon, catch the dang ball. I know it was fast, but it's your job. Observation III: Receivers and tight ends.In a rough season so far, Tyreek continues to be our shining beacon of hope. He got 18 targets yesterday and I wouldn’t mind him getting more. I’m also in awe of his ability to always get four more yards with no contact when you think he’s about to get tackled. Tyreek also always gets four more yards after you think he's tackled, and no one touches him. In other receiver news, we’ll politely ignore the Kelce fumble since it was such an outlier, and I think Mecole’s just a gadget player, but he’s a good one if used right. Give him simple plays where he runs fast, and he’ll go Forrest Gump for you. Observation IV: Offensive line. The television people put up a scary stat that pretty much says it all. The Chiefs are 32nd in blitzes against us, but 6th in overall pressures allowed. These guys have to pass protect better. Trey Smith’s fumble recovery continues to bolster his case for league MVP this year, but he drew a penalty that will hurt a lot. If you’re a right guard, you have to be completely mistake-free to win the league MVP title. Observation V: Special teams. Butker! I like that guy a lot. In other news, we had some odd special teams penalties with Nnadi and Jarran Reed getting called, and we also had a fight with Andrew Wylie and maybe someone else tussling. The lines were active on special teams, I guess. I saw another guy on the field at some point during the game who is apparently our punter. No idea he existed. Observation VI: Defensive backs. If I ever see Daniel Sorensen, I will give him a big hug for 2019. But right now he’s a sieve. I don’t think he should be playing deep. Aside from that, the rest of the defensive backs either played well (most or all of the CBs) or were not a liability (I think Matthieu played, right?) Observation VII: Linebackers. No other linebacker should ever touch the field unless Bolton and Gay are already on the field and they need a third. Observation VIII: Defensive line. (Chris Farley voice.) Remember that play where Chris Jones crashed through the line, then lost sight of the running back and actually turned around trying to find him? That was awesome. (/Farley). The lack of a pass rush is going to kill us this year. We saw a couple of flashes of Frank, which is cause for hope. Why did we cut Tim Ward again? And I know we've said this a million times, but Chris Jones is a DT. Observation IX. Turnovers. You have to be kidding me. This first half of the season has had more fluke turnovers than a pod of breaching whales. Trust me – it’s going to turn around at some point and we’ll secure a playoff spot. From there, it’ll be magic. Observation X: Random observation.** I never thought about this before, but time outs are magical because they actually stop the passage of time. Last edited by Rain Man; 11-02-2021 at 10:54 PM..
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Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $-1585266	Thanks for the writeup RM. It is a weird time to try and figure out what this team is. The same players that were remarkably consistent for 3 years, are now not. I've heard a bunch of reasons why but most of them are markedly wrong. I really don't know what the answer is.
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11-03-2021, 02:50 PM	#34
kccrow MVP Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Michigan Casino cash: $-1270000	BTW Rainman, I did observe quite a bit of the same. So on your points... I don't want to pollute this thread with an argument that needs to go in another but Pat still needs to stop forcing and stop watching the rush, the Chiefs need to run the ball a tad more, and they need to execute the short passing game which relates to the first point. I like what I saw from the RBs in this game quite a bit. Wish they were a bit more explosive but they aren't those RBs. We need a major overhaul at the WR position if possible in the offseason sans Reek of course. I think Kelce is knicked up and there is nothing behind him. It might be time to start thinking about that more heavily. Pat still doesn't put faith in Brown at LT. Brown didn't play too bad but it was the Giants. The Packers have a solid pass rush coming this week, so we'll see what happens. Pat needs to look up field and keep working on stepping up and hopefully the issue starts to correct itself. If it doesn't get fixed by year end, you have to start thinking a change at LT is a must just to get Pat right. Sorensen is, indeed, still shit. Easy coverage to play and he gives up a 5 yard TD he had no business being out of position on. Just terrible. I just don't understand playing him right now, at all. Put Watts out there. Bring up a rookie. Anything. Turnovers and Penalties are absolutely killing this team and it all most cost them against a cellar team.
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