Chris Simms: "JuJu's Injury is Patrick Mahomes Fault"

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Around the 0:30 and 3:30 mark. This is quite a wild take from Chris Simms, victim blaming Mahomes for throwing to the open receiver.

[the steam]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It doesn’t make the game better to watch. What makes the game better to watch is the best players on the field. And teams winning Super Bowl because they were the best not because they were lucky enough to get through the grind without injury. The nfl goes overboard in enforcing that. But there is a good reason these rules exist. Bountygate is a good example of why this exists. If you can’t beat them, knock ‘‘em out is a tonya Harding strategy I can’t stand behind.

Then why not just make it touch football, the less contact the better right?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I’m not a fan of that either. A receiver up in the air is as defenseless as it gets and the DB is making a very intentional decision to truck a receiver instead of playing the ball or at least an attempt at tackling. People may call the rules soft. No, the reason these rules are in place is because no fan wants to see backups play. It’s one thing to do it in the moment. This is a pattern for Cisco and it’s not one that should be encouraged.

Thats ****ing football right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the field, men deliver their new born baby on the side lines. ****ing hard core dick in the ass butterball foosball **** it chuck it game time shit.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Exactly.

Man, hard hits are a part of football. Now there are players like Burfict who take it to an insane level. But **** that, if you can lay a hard hit, lay it. As long as you're not purposefully out there trying to injure people, hard hits are a part of the game. Unfortunately, sometimes injuries happen. Thats the risk of football. I want Thornhill doing that every chance he gets and as long as there's no helmet to helmet contact, there should never be a flag.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by -King-

Man, hard hits are a part of football. Now there are players like Burfict who take it to an insane level. But **** that, if you can lay a hard hit, lay it. As long as you're not purposefully out there trying to injure people, hard hits are a part of the game. Unfortunately, sometimes injuries happen. Thats the risk of football. I want Thornhill doing that every chance he gets and as long as there's no helmet to helmet contact, there should never be a flag.

It was helmet-to-helmet. I have no problem with hard hits. I do have a problem with guys just launching themselves and hurting star players.

I want to watch real football, not a bunch of backups.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It was helmet-to-helmet. I have no problem with hard hits. I do have a problem with guys just launching themselves and hurting star players.

I want to watch real football, not a bunch of backups.

Come on man, you keep talking about the juju hit. We're talking about the MVS hit which led to me posting the Thornhill hit which led to Chiefzilla saying he didn't like that hit either which led to my comment.

Keep up man

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by -King-

Man, hard hits are a part of football. Now there are players like Burfict who take it to an insane level. But **** that, if you can lay a hard hit, lay it. As long as you're not purposefully out there trying to injure people, hard hits are a part of the game. Unfortunately, sometimes injuries happen. Thats the risk of football. I want Thornhill doing that every chance he gets and as long as there's no helmet to helmet contact, there should never be a flag.

I do not agree with you when it comes to defenseless receivers. You don’t have to hit stick to play tough. And often times these big hitters like abrams with the raiders make dumb mistakes because they want to make a statement hit instead of making an actual play. Many of these are easily avoidable just by using your arms to actually play the ball the way you’re supposed to. The nfl usually lets players hit. It’s just that moment when receivers are extremely vulnerable that they’re monitoring. Or at least, they do for every team but us.

Things are different now with concussion protocols. And unless your suggestion is to get rid of those protocols then you are incentivizing defensive players to tonya Harding players like we saw in bountygate. I’d rather see the best on the field. I don’t want defenses gaining a gigantic advantage knowing that they can send their worst players to knock out the enemies best players.

I’ll bitch about targeting overenforcement like the rest of them. But I also get why these rules are in place. People forget how absolutely shitty the league was a few years ago when half the QBs were backups.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by -King-

Come on man, you keep talking about the juju hit. We're talking about the MVS hit which led to me posting the Thornhill hit which led to Chiefzilla saying he didn't like that hit either which led to my comment.

Keep up man

Sorry. I don't really care about the MVS hit. I care about the one that injured a player we really need to be healthy.

[Wallcrawler]

I feel like this topic cant really be settled until jettio comes and tells us that we know not shit about tackle football as it is played in the National Football League.

[ChiefsFanatic]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It was helmet-to-helmet. I have no problem with hard hits. I do have a problem with guys just launching themselves and hurting star players.



I want to watch real football, not a bunch of backups.

I was also thinking today that if a crackback block on a return or interception is illegal, then this hit should have been illegal.

Like a lineman tracking the ball on an interception who gets cracked when his attention is on the ball, JuJu had his attention on the ball.

I believe that if JuJu was tracking a DB after an interception, and Cisco made that exact hit, he would have been flagged, and they would NOT have picked it up.

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[Marcellus]

The NFL fined #Jaguars S Andre Cisco $6,612 for unnecessary roughness — the hit that put #Chiefs WR JuJu Smith-Schuster in concussion protocol last week. pic.twitter.com/EdMyfnILtk

— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) November 19, 2022

As predicted. Why didnt they fine Mahomes if it was "his fault"?

[ThyKingdomCome15]

Clearly targeting by another frustrated opponent.

[crayzkirk]

Haven't read everything so it might be a duplicate...

From what I recall about the play, Juju was open by at least five yards before the ball was thrown, Cisco closed quickly and hit Juju just as he was turning up the field. Clearly helmet to helmet and it did not appear as if Cisco was trying to make a tackle.

These athletes can move a good distance just in the time that it takes the ball to get there so placing blame seems foolish. Maybe Chris got a batch of weed that made him more critical than usual. The guy seems stoned 24/7.

Not that there's anything wrong with that... If you can make it work and get paid for your opinion like he does...