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Old 01-01-2023, 08:08 PM  
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Clearing up the 1 seed situation

Yes, this needs it's own thread due to the amount of people in other threads that clearly don't understand how this works. I've seen several people ask "If the Bills win tomorrow, does Andy rest his starters next week" and I've even seen someone post that if the Bills lose tomorrow, we can rest Thuney for the playoffs.

So, in plain and clear language, here is the deal:


There is no scenario in which the 1 seed can be clinched by anyone tomorrow. If the Bills win, they still need to beat NE unless we lose to the Raiders. If the Bills lose, we still need to beat the Raiders, unless the Bills lose to the Patriots. If Cinci wins out and we lose to the Raiders, they are the 1 seed.

Again and most importantly for this thread, there is no chance the Chiefs are not playing for a shot at the one seed next week. The Bills can win 764-2 and everyone with a pulse will play for the Chiefs next week.

That is all.
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Old 01-02-2023, 10:27 AM   #76
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If we stay the 2 seed, the Jags would be the 4th as they would be division winners, Ravens worst is the 6th as they have 10 wins. I'm pretty sure its the Stealers, Minnows, Faketriots...
The Jags can still end up as a 7 seed WC. We could end up playing the Ravens if we drop into the 3 seed (with a loss + 2 Bengals wins), but you did give "if we get the 2 seed" as a caveat.
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Old 01-02-2023, 10:28 AM   #77
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Andy, and the rest of the team, had better not be paying any attention at all to any game other than the one they are playing.
Gonna be hard not to scoreboard watch, especially since they will be in LV and have no control over whether they show the scores or not.
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Old 01-02-2023, 10:29 AM   #78
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I think the Patriots just have to be higher given that if we lose to the Raiders after a Bills win tonight, the Bills have nothing at stake next week. I doubt they’ll sit their starters given that they’ll have a bye, but I can’t imagine they’ll be playing the playoff-hungry Patriots at anywhere near 100%.
Possibly. You're definitely right that these kinds of models can't really account for stuff like that or injuries to a key player.
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Old 01-02-2023, 10:29 AM   #79
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Gonna be hard not to scoreboard watch, especially since they will be in LV and have no control over whether they show the scores or not.
The game’s on Saturday. No scoreboard to watch anyway.
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You seem to forget Fitzmagic. Anything can happen.
Mac is no Fitzpatrick though. Regardless of tonight I expect the Bills to take the Pats to the woodshed. There is no love lost between those two teams and any chance they can humiliate Belechick they will, especially if it keeps the Pats out of the playoffs.
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Old 01-02-2023, 11:00 AM   #81
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The Jags can still end up as a 7 seed WC. We could end up playing the Ravens if we drop into the 3 seed (with a loss + 2 Bengals wins), but you did give "if we get the 2 seed" as a caveat.
I thought the Ravens had to beat the Stealers last night for that to be the case...
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Old 01-02-2023, 11:05 AM   #82
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I thought the Ravens had to beat the Stealers last night for that to be the case...
It's unlikely, but the Jags make it as a WC if:

Jags lose to Titans
Jets beat Dolphins
Browns beat Steelers
Bills beat Pats
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Old 01-02-2023, 11:12 AM   #83
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It's unlikely, but the Jags make it as a WC if:

Jags lose to Titans
Jets beat Dolphins
Browns beat Steelers
Bills beat Pats
Got it... If the Jags lose, their fans are "so your saying we have a chance!" IT could happen, stranger things have and all of those teams are beatable right now. So we got the Steelers, Jags, Pats or Fins if we stay the 2. The best chance appears to have the Fins coming to Arrowhead if we stay the 2.
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Old 01-02-2023, 02:46 PM   #84
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It's not likely at all (I have a very low opinion of the Pats overall) but if Fitzpatrick can beat the Brady Patriots, the Patriots can beat the Allen Bills.

They're clearly not resting anybody.
Fitz had guts and got hot sometimes. Jones is pretty bad IMHO. The Patriots have not come close to slowing down Josh Allen.
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Old 01-02-2023, 02:50 PM   #85
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I am disappointed. I thought this thread was either about porn or farming.

Nope. Stupid football.
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Fitz had guts and got hot sometimes. Jones is pretty bad IMHO. The Patriots have not come close to slowing down Josh Allen.
Oh he's terrible. Maybe the most limited QB that is a current starter for any NFL team. Still, crazier things have happened.
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Oh he's terrible. Maybe the most limited QB that is a current starter for any NFL team. Still, crazier things have happened.
Indeed. Let's hope we don't need it though.
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Old 01-02-2023, 03:01 PM   #88
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We will know the top 3 playoff seedings tonight (they will stay that way).

If Bills win, it will be:

1. Bills
2. Chiefs
3. Bengals

If Bills lose:

1. Chiefs
2. Bengals
3. Bills

Either way, the seeding of the top will be set tonight and won’t change.
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We will know the top 3 playoff seedings tonight (they will stay that way).

If Bills win, it will be:

1. Bills
2. Chiefs
3. Bengals

If Bills lose:

1. Chiefs
2. Bengals
3. Bills

Either way, the seeding of the top will be set tonight and won’t change.
You'd think a Bills fan would know better than to assume that there won't be any upsets next week.
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You'd think a Bills fan would know better than to assume that there won't be any upsets next week.
Ya know what, you’re absolutely right. That was stupid to write. I probably jinxed us.
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