Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Poop Watson vs Wilson - which was the worst trade and sign?
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

View Poll Results: Which is the worst trade and sign
Wilson 32 76.19%
Watson 10 23.81%
Voters: 42. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
Page 2 of 2 1 2
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-08-2023, 03:29 PM  
dlphg9 dlphg9 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
dlphg9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Casino cash: $-1440347
Watson vs Wilson - which was the worst trade and sign?
Watson trade

Browns received

Serial sexual assaulter- 27 yr old Deshaun Watson and then signed him to 5 yr/$230 mil fully guaranteed contract

2024 6th round pick

Texans received

2022 1st round pick 13th overall
2023 1st round pick ~12th overall
2024 1st round pick
2022 4th round pick 107th overall
2023 3rd round pick
2024 4th round pick

Wilson trade

Broncos receive

The chef - 34 year old Russell Wilson and sign him to a 5 yr/$242 million $161 million guaranteed

2022 4th rounder

Seahawks receive

QB Drew Lock
DT Shelby Harris
TE Noah Fant
2022 first round pick 9th overall
2022 second round pick 40th overall
2022 fifth round pick
2023 first round pick 3rd overall
2023 second round pick

Personally I think the Wilson trade was worse based on his age and what he had been doing in previous seasons. Plus they gave up a pick that would net a QBOTF possibly. The only thing that makes this close is Watson is a piece of trash human and Cleveland gave up 3 1st round picks.

I couldn't be happier for Denver or Cleveland, though.
Posts: 20,373
dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 04:46 PM   #16
Kiimo Kiimo is offline
MVP
 
Kiimo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Studio City, CA
Casino cash: $1998742
Watson for me.

You leave Wilson alone with your teenage daughter the biggest threat is him trying to rap to her about the dangers of premarital sex.
Posts: 13,844
Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
 Thumbs Up 2 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 04:46 PM   #17
Eleazar Eleazar is offline
Beyond the Rapids
 
Eleazar's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2003
Location: Langley, VA
Casino cash: $-370000
Watson is worse, they gave up more than 3 first round picks, AND his whole deal is fully guaranteed.

And people with his sort of off the field issues don’t just knock it off. They are what they are.
Posts: 80,659
Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 04:46 PM   #18
TwistedChief TwistedChief is online now
Why so serious?
 
TwistedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Chicago
Casino cash: $-1249585
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 View Post
I'll say, it's taking Watson long enough. Guy acts like he's only had 4 months of prep to get ready to play, and he's still ass. Not like he doesn't have a top-10 defense, a top-5 OL, a top-3 rushing attack, and a top-5 receiving corps.
Top 5 receiving corp? Definitely not. More like a top 25 receiving corp.
Posts: 13,272
TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.TwistedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 04:47 PM   #19
Chris Meck Chris Meck is online now
MVP
 
Chris Meck's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Casino cash: $-1175090
I really do not understand why people think Watson is anywhere near an elite QB.

Dude threw 50/50 balls to Hopkins for the most part. I don't see anything special there. I mean, Daunte Culpepper threw 50/50 balls to Randy Moss, and then was pretty forgettable when that wasn't an option anymore.

And Watson is a serial sexual assaulter, which has alienated a good chunk of what has been a very loyal and dedicated fanbase. If I was a Cleveland fan, I'd be furious, disheartened, and probably just not watch NFL football anymore.

I have several Ohio friends that feel that way.

So I say Watson is the worst deal. What a slap in the face to all Browns fans. Hadn't they suffered enough?

**** that guy.
Posts: 19,417
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 04:49 PM   #20
Eleazar Eleazar is offline
Beyond the Rapids
 
Eleazar's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2003
Location: Langley, VA
Casino cash: $-370000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Meck View Post
I really do not understand why people think Watson is anywhere near an elite QB.

Dude threw 50/50 balls to Hopkins for the most part. I don't see anything special there. I mean, Daunte Culpepper threw 50/50 balls to Randy Moss, and then was pretty forgettable when that wasn't an option anymore.

And Watson is a serial sexual assaulter, which has alienated a good chunk of what has been a very loyal and dedicated fanbase. If I was a Cleveland fan, I'd be furious, disheartened, and probably just not watch NFL football anymore.

I have several Ohio friends that feel that way.

So I say Watson is the worst deal. What a slap in the face to all Browns fans. Hadn't they suffered enough?

**** that guy.
Yeah. The cost to the organization in local goodwill, pride, and team identification will have a broad impact.
Posts: 80,659
Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.Eleazar is obviously part of the inner Circle.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 04:50 PM   #21
srvy srvy is online now
Fight, build, win!
 
srvy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: KC
Casino cash: $-2038750
Don't turn your back to Dak. His suckage is kinda being overlooked.
__________________
"The victim stance is a powerful one. The victim is always morally right, neither responsible nor accountable, and forever entitled to sympathy."
Posts: 25,747
srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.srvy is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 04:53 PM   #22
Rainbarrel Rainbarrel is offline
MVP
 
Rainbarrel's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2021
Casino cash: $-649600
If I am decent HC material. I take the factory of sadness over donner pass
Posts: 10,391
Rainbarrel is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Rainbarrel is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Rainbarrel is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Rainbarrel is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Rainbarrel is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Rainbarrel is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Rainbarrel is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Rainbarrel is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Rainbarrel is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Rainbarrel is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Rainbarrel is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 04:56 PM   #23
Megatron96 Megatron96 is offline
Suupraa Geniuuusss
 
Megatron96's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: North Phoenix, AZ
Casino cash: $-1759600
Quote:
Originally Posted by TwistedChief View Post
Top 5 receiving corp? Definitely not. More like a top 25 receiving corp.
i don't know exactly where they rank, but they have Amari Cooper, true WR1 (thought to be a top 3 WR just a season or two ago), David Njoku (top-15 TE), Chubb/Hunt out of the backfield, and DPJ is apparently having a JJSS type of season. That's top-10-15 at least? it's a pretty good receiving group regardless.
__________________
“Some ideas are so stupid only intellectuals believe them.”- George Orwell


Steven "Spags" Spagnuolo is my Adopt-A-Chief!!!
Posts: 34,906
Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Megatron96 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 05:01 PM   #24
HemiEd HemiEd is offline
Supporter
 
HemiEd's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Ozarks
Casino cash: $-309436
Quote:
Originally Posted by St. Patty's Fire View Post
its tough and i picked watson, but the watson trade does have a slightly better chance of turning out ok for cleveland whereas denver is inarguably ****ed for a decade
Well said, and I think they were both awesome trades for my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs!
Posts: 34,814
HemiEd is obviously part of the inner Circle.HemiEd is obviously part of the inner Circle.HemiEd is obviously part of the inner Circle.HemiEd is obviously part of the inner Circle.HemiEd is obviously part of the inner Circle.HemiEd is obviously part of the inner Circle.HemiEd is obviously part of the inner Circle.HemiEd is obviously part of the inner Circle.HemiEd is obviously part of the inner Circle.HemiEd is obviously part of the inner Circle.HemiEd is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 05:05 PM   #25
Chris Meck Chris Meck is online now
MVP
 
Chris Meck's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2001
Location: midtown KC
Casino cash: $-1175090
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rainbarrel View Post
If I am decent HC material. I take the factory of sadness over donner pass
**** that. Either is a death sentence. I'll go coach Eastern Uganda State.
Posts: 19,417
Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.Chris Meck is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 05:05 PM   #26
frozenchief frozenchief is offline
Cynical Misanthrope
 
frozenchief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Alaska
Casino cash: $-1550000
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spott View Post
Both equally bad, but Wilson is worse only because Watson is a few years younger and it’s still possible that he might improve, although I highly doubt it. Nobody gets better by going to Cleveland.
This. You wonder if Watson is this bad because he’s rusty and needs time to get ready. Given his age and his time off, I think the odds of Watson improving are better than the odds of Wilson improving, although not by a great deal. Thus, I’d have to say the Wilson trade is a worse trade. But again, this the difference is not much.

Cleveland has always been a shot show. Can’t say I’m surprised at what they did. Denver, though, Denver has been a pretty well run franchise. I’m surprised they screwed up this badly.
Posts: 4,334
frozenchief is obviously part of the inner Circle.frozenchief is obviously part of the inner Circle.frozenchief is obviously part of the inner Circle.frozenchief is obviously part of the inner Circle.frozenchief is obviously part of the inner Circle.frozenchief is obviously part of the inner Circle.frozenchief is obviously part of the inner Circle.frozenchief is obviously part of the inner Circle.frozenchief is obviously part of the inner Circle.frozenchief is obviously part of the inner Circle.frozenchief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 05:10 PM   #27
dlphg9 dlphg9 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
dlphg9's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2010
Casino cash: $-1440347
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Meck View Post
I really do not understand why people think Watson is anywhere near an elite QB.

Dude threw 50/50 balls to Hopkins for the most part. I don't see anything special there. I mean, Daunte Culpepper threw 50/50 balls to Randy Moss, and then was pretty forgettable when that wasn't an option anymore.

And Watson is a serial sexual assaulter, which has alienated a good chunk of what has been a very loyal and dedicated fanbase. If I was a Cleveland fan, I'd be furious, disheartened, and probably just not watch NFL football anymore.

I have several Ohio friends that feel that way.

So I say Watson is the worst deal. What a slap in the face to all Browns fans. Hadn't they suffered enough?

**** that guy.
I am definitely not one of those people that think Watson is elite. I even made a thread about it like 2 years ago.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=334613
Posts: 20,373
dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dlphg9 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
 Thumbs Up 1 Thumbs Down 0     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 05:15 PM   #28
DrunkBassGuitar DrunkBassGuitar is offline
GDT white noise poster
 
DrunkBassGuitar's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Chonson County
Casino cash: $1868230
both are terrible but edge to Wilson because he's in a division with Mahomes and Herbert so theres no chance the broncos sniff the playoffs until they get that albatross off their neck
Posts: 6,877
DrunkBassGuitar is too fat/Omaha.DrunkBassGuitar is too fat/Omaha.DrunkBassGuitar is too fat/Omaha.DrunkBassGuitar is too fat/Omaha.DrunkBassGuitar is too fat/Omaha.DrunkBassGuitar is too fat/Omaha.DrunkBassGuitar is too fat/Omaha.DrunkBassGuitar is too fat/Omaha.DrunkBassGuitar is too fat/Omaha.DrunkBassGuitar is too fat/Omaha.DrunkBassGuitar is too fat/Omaha.
     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 05:18 PM   #29
Kiimo Kiimo is offline
MVP
 
Kiimo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Studio City, CA
Casino cash: $1998742
Quote:
Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar View Post
both are terrible but edge to Wilson because he's in a division with Mahomes and Herbert so theres no chance the broncos sniff the playoffs until they get that albatross off their neck
I mean the AFCN isn't much easier
Posts: 13,844
Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.Kiimo 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
     Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2023, 05:19 PM   #30
jettio jettio is offline
MVP
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Casino cash: $4504930
If Denver had a coach that knew how to run a training camp and practice, Wilson would have been solid this year.

Once you saw week 1 versus Seattle and the next two Bronco games, you could just tell it was like they were not prepared.

If Denver gets a coach that know how to prepare a team, I think Wilson will be decent, but not elite.

Both of those trades and long term deals are bad.
__________________
Where Ignorance is Bliss, 'Tis Folly to be Wise.

__
Posts: 11,043
jettio has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jettio has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jettio has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jettio has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jettio has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jettio has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jettio has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jettio has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jettio has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jettio has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jettio has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 2 of 2 1 2

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:11 PM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.