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I agree that the DE market isn't great but honestly even one of the middling options feels like a worthwhile pursuit. I'd even take an ancient Ingram back. All that said I really like the Durham, Stills and Valladay picks. I also really like Horton, i just can't decide where I like him in the draft. |
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I agree that Scott at #31 feels a bit rich, but here's the deal with this WR class... The top tier guys (Johnston, Addison, Smith-Nijba, & Hyatt) will all be gone by the time we pick. We like speed guys, but probably don't need another slot (Flowers & Downs). So... if you want a speed guy that can play on the outside, and Scott's your guy, then you might have to take him at #31. Especially if he ends up the 2nd or 3rd fastest 40 time at the combine for a WR.
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Nah i'm with you there kccrow. Now that Mahomes is used to actually looking for the right throw and not just "**** it, Tyreek is down there somewhere", having a good burner like Scott or Hyatt or Jayden Reed that can run those routes will REALLY stress defenses. What do you defend? Pacheco and the run? Scott/Reed/Hyatt going deep? Kelce sitting in zone gaps? Toney/Moore/Ross/Ross doing whatever Andy wants? Our offense, with a solid RT drafted like Morris/Dawand Jones/maybe Duncan or Breeland would be insane.
Our defense would just need to be solid, like top 15, top 20 and we are set. I mean, right now, whats our weak spot in our defense? DE opposite Karlaftis? DT opposite Jones? We can find a DT in free agency and there are several DE's that I like that we can either plug in or develop from the draft. I'm really excited for this offseason and it will just take a couple of FA moves and draft picks to make this team even more of a monster. |
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Yeah I'm a little more hopeful that Hardman back is possible now at a reasonable cost. In which case I'd do the same as you. I'd probably still take a WR pick.somewhere R2-4 if the right guy fell. But next year might be a better R1 pick.
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Lots of folks are split on Hyatt, some have him falling all the way to the 3rd due to lack of pro offense and no press coverage tap etc while others believe he's a special weapon that will go in the top 20 of the draft. My thing is that when those mocks happen there's only 1 guy making the decisions, but in the NFL draft there's 32 teams and at least one of them will view Hyatt as a top WR and take him early so I'm not counting on him being available. Last edited by Couch-Potato; 02-21-2023 at 12:09 PM.. |
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I don't think he's the same athlete as Williams, but maybe it just doesn't matter. If he's as quick as predicted, and I could believe it, I think my concerns (is he just a straight line guy, can he beat press) may not be an issue with Reid scheming for him. I mean I thought the same way about Christian Watson last year and got that wrong, and Hyatt has much better hands. |
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1. Yeah, he ran a pretty limited tree in college. Doesn't mean he won't get coached up there. Most collegiate WRs aren't "great" route runners. He's no exception. He might even be a bit behind in that category. 2. He's fast, fast. So yeah it's not really going to matter on a lot of issues. If he stays healthy and refines his route running, it's just going to make him that much more dangerous and he's already dangerous. He only has one year of starting experience. He's going to get better. That's the plus Christian Watson had, he was going to refine alot. Watson probably goes alot higher last year if he had a better level of competition and didn't show questionable hands on tape and at the combine. 3. He will lose to press if he's exposed to it and they can actually get the jam on him, sure. So he's a Z/Slot receiver. Don't think that's a big deal. For Andy Reid, those two positions are pretty interchangeable as he has them motioning and moving the defense all the time anyhow. At the end of the day, the guy was the best WR in college football this year and has the potential to get exponentially better. His floor seems to be Will Fuller ability. Just have to hope he exceeds Will Fuller health. |
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I would add that I think the talk on Hyatt is that he's a unique weapon but he might not a complete WR, that you have to scheme him open. But, that's just fine for Andy, he loves scheming mis-matches and getting guys with unique tools the ball. I'd be stoked if he fell to us at #31 and we took him.
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