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Old 08-18-2023, 09:56 AM  
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Untold: Hall of Shame, Balco documentary
This is pretty interesting from Netflix. I didn’t follow it all that closely when it came out so a lot was new to me. Interviews with Conte, IRS agent who started the thing and a few others.

Conte still denies giving steroids to Bonds but thinks he took them.

What I had no idea about was he started as and still has a vitamin supplement line that is apparently worth millions, which was endorsed by top athletes in the past, including endorsed by some current top boxer.
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Old 08-19-2023, 02:30 PM   #46
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There are so many shades of grey to this whole subject. Is stimulating the pituitary to create more HGH through late puberty OK? It's certainly never going to show on any blood test. How about using myostatin inhibitors? It will never show up. Those are little ways to get ahead right up to triple stacks with large doses of HGH. I don't know how you draw a line here. Choice would seem to be a common sense option. One thing I know is not allowing a player to use DMSO with at least Deca is just stupid. You heal much more rapidly. With as much as players put into this, teams invest as well as fans, it's just stupid.
DMSO with deca is laughable. No matter the delivery method, Nandrolone metabolites are detectable up to 18 months out. No drug tested athlete will ever use any type of Nandrolone based drug.
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Old 08-19-2023, 02:58 PM   #47
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Steroid era was the best era of baseball. Start juicing em again i say.
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Old 08-19-2023, 05:19 PM   #49
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Kind of ironic this thread showing up, I had just watched it. Like some others, I didn't pay that close attention back then, but this connected a lot of dots.

Yesterday I watched another drug show, "Painkiller." Holy shit, I never really paid much attention when that was going on either.
That show was more of a docudrama with truths in between the sensationalism. To get a more level view of how it happened, read the book DOPESICK or to really understand the Sackler family, read Empire Of Pain.

It’s one reason why I realize now that I don’t give two ****s what Barry Bonds did. He never hurt anybody else.

The Sackler family on the other hand? The only person even in their realm of shithood is Martin Shkreli, the POS who purchased the rights to Deraprim, a drug that normally costs $13 and just decided to raise the price by 5000%.

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DMSO with deca is laughable. No matter the delivery method, Nandrolone metabolites are detectable up to 18 months out. No drug tested athlete will ever use any type of Nandrolone based drug.
I simply made an example of one situation I thought should be legal especially when injured. Never mentioned avoiding detection.
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I simply made an example of one situation I thought should be legal especially when injured. Never mentioned avoiding detection.
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