Chiefs Mt. Rushmore by Position - Centers

**Rain Man** · 07-26-2024, 06:05 PM

We have way too many great players to limit our discussion to just one Mount Rushmore, so I thought it would be good to discuss the Mount Rushmore by position.

Here's how I'll post them up.

If a position has one person on the field (e.g., quarterback, center, tight end), the Mount Rushmore will have four players.

If a position has two people on the field (e.g., cornerback, offensive tackle, wide receiver), the Mount Rushmore will have eight players.

If a position has a varied history of one or two people on the field (e.g., defensive tackle, running back, inside linebacker), the Mount Rushmore will have six players.

The wide receiver Rushmore will have ten players since they've varied between two and three people on the field.

I'll put up a poll that will contain three times the number of available slots at a minimum. The candidates will include the players with the most career starts at that position, plus any player who ever made a pro bowl.

I'll use PFR as a reference, and will manually change any positions that are obviously an error (e.g., they list Joe Valerio as a center for some reason).

We'll start with an easy one: center.

Vote for FOUR to go on this Mount Rushmore.

**Rain Man** · 07-26-2024, 06:10 PM

My votes:

Rudnay and Grunhard are obvious choices.

Surprisingly, I think Creed is an easy choice despite being early in his career.

My final vote came down to Wiegmann, Gilliam, and Holub. Gilliam has a pro bowl, but those were cheaper in an 8-team AFL. Wiegmann has a ton of starts. Holub centered for a Super Bowl winner. It's a tough call, but my final slot goes to Holub.

**alpha_omega** · 07-26-2024, 06:18 PM

In no particular order...

Holub
Humphrey
Rudnay
Webster (ya, he wasn't around long, but he helped turn the whole thing around at that time)

Cheater5 · 07-26-2024, 06:19 PM

Bit of trivia; when I was eleven years old I met Jack Rudnay at a funeral of all things. My classmate was struck and killed by a truck while walking to school, and I think Rudnay was friends with his father.

Anyway, love the original #58.

Grunhard was a caveman in pads and deserved more recognition than he got; that 90s offensive line was doooooom.

Bump · 07-26-2024, 07:26 PM

ya I don't think there's any question for which 4 should be on it

BWillie · 07-26-2024, 10:06 PM

I am surprised Weigman is so low

jdubya · 07-26-2024, 10:15 PM

Jim Otto

RedinTexas · 07-26-2024, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

My votes:

Rudnay and Grunhard are obvious choices.

Surprisingly, I think Creed is an easy choice despite being early in his career.

My final vote came down to Wiegmann, Gilliam, and Holub. Gilliam has a pro bowl, but those were cheaper in an 8-team AFL. Wiegmann has a ton of starts. Holub centered for a Super Bowl winner. It's a tough call, but my final slot goes to Holub.

I was a kid when the Chiefs won Super Bowl 4. Holub was one of my favorite players. He was on the defense in Super Bowl 1. I think Holub was more of a great team-guy and teammate, than he was a great center. God Bless him, I loved him, and may he RIP, but I don't think EJ was so much a great center as he was someone you loved to have on the team.

Zebedee DuBois · 07-27-2024, 06:20 AM

Keep overlooking Rudy and his Niswanger

Otter · 07-27-2024, 06:40 AM

Creed is the quiet assassin.

Megatron96 · 07-27-2024, 11:56 AM

Uh, I don't see Jason Kelce.

Coogs · 07-27-2024, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Uh, I don't see Jason Kelce.

He didn't play for the Chiefs. It's in the OP.

EDIT: Actually it is not in the OP. It was implied though I think by the choices and the recent Mount Rushmore topic here.

Megatron96 · 07-27-2024, 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs

He didn't play for the Chiefs. It's in the OP.

EDIT: Actually it is not in the OP. It was implied though I think by the choices and the recent Mount Rushmore topic here.

Ah, Chiefs centers. Missed that bit. Thx for the heads up.

View Poll Results: Vote for your top FOUR centers.
Jack Rudnay-171 Starts & 4 Pro Bowls	55	80.88%
Tim Grunhard-164 Starts & 1 Pro Bowls	59	86.76%
Casey Wiegmann-143 Starts	41	60.29%
Jon Gilliam-73 Starts & 1 Pro Bowls	2	2.94%
Creed Humphrey-51 Starts & 2 Pro Bowls	62	91.18%
Mitch Morse-49 Starts	12	17.65%
Bob Rush-47 Starts	0	0%
Rodney Hudson-35 Starts	11	16.18%
E.J. Holub-34 Starts	5	7.35%
Austin Reiter-32 Starts	1	1.47%
Rudy Niswanger-31 Starts	0	0%
Mike Webster-23 Starts	5	7.35%
I wouldn't desecrate a mountain for any of these guys.	1	1.47%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

07-26-2024, 06:05 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-542449 VARSITY	Mt. Rushmore by Position - Centers We have way too many great players to limit our discussion to just one Mount Rushmore, so I thought it would be good to discuss the Mount Rushmore by position. Here's how I'll post them up. If a position has one person on the field (e.g., quarterback, center, tight end), the Mount Rushmore will have four players. If a position has two people on the field (e.g., cornerback, offensive tackle, wide receiver), the Mount Rushmore will have eight players. If a position has a varied history of one or two people on the field (e.g., defensive tackle, running back, inside linebacker), the Mount Rushmore will have six players. The wide receiver Rushmore will have ten players since they've varied between two and three people on the field. I'll put up a poll that will contain three times the number of available slots at a minimum. The candidates will include the players with the most career starts at that position, plus any player who ever made a pro bowl. I'll use PFR as a reference, and will manually change any positions that are obviously an error (e.g., they list Joe Valerio as a center for some reason). We'll start with an easy one: center. Vote for FOUR to go on this Mount Rushmore.
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07-26-2024, 06:10 PM	#2
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-542449 VARSITY	My votes: Rudnay and Grunhard are obvious choices. Surprisingly, I think Creed is an easy choice despite being early in his career. My final vote came down to Wiegmann, Gilliam, and Holub. Gilliam has a pro bowl, but those were cheaper in an 8-team AFL. Wiegmann has a ton of starts. Holub centered for a Super Bowl winner. It's a tough call, but my final slot goes to Holub. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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07-26-2024, 06:18 PM	#3
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07-26-2024, 06:19 PM	#4
Cheater5 Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Folly Beach, SC Casino cash: $1467550	Bit of trivia; when I was eleven years old I met Jack Rudnay at a funeral of all things. My classmate was struck and killed by a truck while walking to school, and I think Rudnay was friends with his father. Anyway, love the original #58. Grunhard was a caveman in pads and deserved more recognition than he got; that 90s offensive line was doooooom.
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07-26-2024, 07:26 PM	#5
Bump YOU take YOUR seat Join Date: Nov 2007 Casino cash: $-1524895	ya I don't think there's any question for which 4 should be on it
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07-26-2024, 10:06 PM	#6
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07-27-2024, 06:20 AM	#9
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07-27-2024, 11:56 AM	#11
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