National Media starts the bashing. It's Trent's fault now. - Page 4

**BigRedChief** · 09-21-2004, 11:15 AM

From cbssportline:

Green hit eight of his first nine, then was 9 of 25 the rest of the way. For the second straight week he completed only half of his passes. For the second straight week he didn't have 200 yards in completions. For the second straight week he had no touchdowns.
You can look it up: In two weeks he's 23 of 66 for 361 yards, no TDs and two interceptions, and you want to know what's wrong with the defense?

The link:
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7698339

Gaz · 09-22-2004, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

I know our D isn't great, but if our O was producing like last season, we'd be 2-0...

Exactly.

xoxo~
Gaz
Could not have been as succinct.

Gaz · 09-22-2004, 09:21 AM

Coogs-

I understand. This season is for evaluation as to which players fit Gunther’s scheme and which do not. I read lots of complaining about us not adding players in the off-season, but it made sense to me that we evaluate the players with Gunther at the helm before diving into FA.

I think the prior Defense was mostly scheme but it would be the epitome of blind homerism to say that we have top-tier talent on that side of the ball. Now we have [IMO] a better scheme, but we still do not have many players who would be starters on the average NFL team.

xoxo~
Gaz
Loves Gunther’s ‘tude, but realizes this is an ongoing process.

**BigRedChief** · 09-22-2004, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Now I am comming back to the reality that it may take a while. Perhaps even a year or two to aquire a bit more talent to make the thing fly.

We may have one more year. But right now our ol is looking old. Our LB are below average. We are desperate at WR. Priest might retire. Trwnt will be 37 after next year. Tony G 31. We can't fix everything in one year.

Chiefnj · 09-22-2004, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaz

The pertinent question is: Which part of the team did you expect to carry the team?

I expected the offense to carry the team. I also expected management not to sit on their thumbs while 4 of the "receivers" the team expected to rely upon were out for almost the entire preseason and/or lost for the regular season.

As far as making this an evaluation year, I think it is a huge mistake when you look at the age, and in Priest's case his quirkiness, of key offensive players - Green, Richardson, Roaf, Shields and Morton.

InChiefsHeaven · 09-22-2004, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We may have one more year. But right now our ol is looking old. Our LB are below average. We are desperate at WR. Priest might retire. Trwnt will be 37 after next year. Tony G 31. We can't fix everything in one year.

Trent just turned 34 this summer, and Gonzo just turned 28. (No, I don't have a poster of them in my bedroom). They've got a few more years left. Priest is 31 this October. Unless he pusses out or gets injured, one would think that he could run for a couple more years. That's up to him of course, but that's also what LJ is for. I don't think we'd be fixing EVERYTHING in one year. Next season, our rookies of the last 2 years will either get it or be gone. It just takes time.

My biggest concern is the injury bug. I fear it will bite and bite hard this year...

Coogs · 09-22-2004, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Gaz

This season is for evaluation as to which players fit Gunther’s scheme and which do not. I read lots of complaining about us not adding players in the off-season, but it made sense to me that we evaluate the players with Gunther at the helm before diving into FA.

I agree totally. I thought the players we already had/have needed a one year grace period to prove themselves. And up to this point, a couple of them have. Fujita and Warfield have earned their keep. I'm anxious to see Fox when he gets healthy. And believe it or not, I want to see Bartee when he gets healthy. I suspect he could man the CB spot opposite of Warfield as well as McCleon did Sunday.

Coogs · 09-22-2004, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

We may have one more year. But right now our ol is looking old. Our LB are below average. We are desperate at WR. Priest might retire. Trwnt will be 37 after next year. Tony G 31. We can't fix everything in one year.

I'm not throwing in the towel just yet, but I am starting to come to grips with the fact that last year was our year.

htismaqe · 09-22-2004, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

I expected the offense to carry the team. I also expected management not to sit on their thumbs while 4 of the "receivers" the team expected to rely upon were out for almost the entire preseason and/or lost for the regular season.

As far as making this an evaluation year, I think it is a huge mistake when you look at the age, and in Priest's case his quirkiness, of key offensive players - Green, Richardson, Roaf, Shields and Morton.

Good post.

**BigRedChief** · 09-22-2004, 02:55 PM

Now Fox Sports is jumping on Trent. Ranking him 31st out of 34 QB's in "clutch" performance. Behind Ken Dorsey, Kyle Boller etc
The link:
http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3028654

09-21-2004, 11:15 AM
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09-22-2004, 09:21 AM	#47
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	When the ship is sinking, you hold tight to that preserver... Coogs- I understand. This season is for evaluation as to which players fit Gunther’s scheme and which do not. I read lots of complaining about us not adding players in the off-season, but it made sense to me that we evaluate the players with Gunther at the helm before diving into FA. I think the prior Defense was mostly scheme but it would be the epitome of blind homerism to say that we have top-tier talent on that side of the ball. Now we have [IMO] a better scheme, but we still do not have many players who would be starters on the average NFL team. xoxo~ Gaz Loves Gunther’s ‘tude, but realizes this is an ongoing process.
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