Do you prefer the "old"/Vermeil style or the "new"/Herm style of play?

[FloridaMan88]

Vermeil-era vs Herm-era (all 2 games of it) by the numbers from today's KC Star:


New vs. Old: Comparing two coaches' styles
The Kansas City Star
It’s been only two games, but here’s how the Chiefs have fared in Herm Edwards’ brief tenure as coach (top) compared with five seasons under Dick Vermeil.


Edwards Category Vermeil
8.0 Points for 27.0
16.0 Points against 22.9
129.0 Rush offense 137.3
130.5 Rush defense 124.4
153.5 Pass offense 243.6
146.5 Pass defense 232.4

[wolfpack0735]

Hermie dosent have the tackles to play Vermeil`s offense but Hermie needs to get off page one of Vermeil`s play book.

[htismaqe]

I voted neither, but I have to add one caveat:

Anybody that voted for Vermeil is ignoring the obvious.

IT DID NOT WORK.

Period, end of story.

Whether or not Herm's "style" succeeds here is still undecided. No matter how you feel on the CHANCE that it will succeed, the simple fact is that we don't have sufficient data to make a determination.

We have 5 years of data on Vermeil. 5 years of failure.

[jspchief]

We haven't seen enough to know what Herm's style is.

[Stinger]

Always have and always will like smash mouth football. Give me a good D to watch and I am happy. Herm was delt a blow will Roaf and Trent. So any offensive now activity is a not really conclusive on how it will be for the tenure of Herm.

That said give me a defense that goes out and hits people hard and my personal opinion it is just as exciting as watching a high powered offense.

[KC Dan]

I prefer victories, call me silly. DV didn't get us to the playoffs = F. Herm is 0-2 = D- but too soon for final grade here

[Bearcat]

I dunno... how about comparing Herm's first 2 games vs. DV's first 2 games

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I dunno... how about comparing Herm's first 2 games vs. DV's first 2 games

It's not really a valid comparison because this team is much more talented than our 2001 squad.

Herm has done a wonderful job with the defense. It's too early to tell if he's really ****ed up the offense, but the retirement of Roaf and Welbourn and Green's injury didn't help.

[Wile_E_Coyote]

winning is what matters, it's the transition that sucks

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

It's not really a valid comparison because this team is much more talented than our 2001 squad.

Herm has done a wonderful job with the defense. It's too early to tell if he's really ****ed up the offense, but the retirement of Roaf and Welbourn and Green's injury didn't help.

That was sort of my point... Vermeil had his players.. Holmes, Green, Gonzo... but it wasn't magic on day 1 (he went 0-2, btw). PPG, our defense wasn't all that bad that year, either. It was way too early to tell if he ****ed up the defense.

And who knows about our defense this year... there's definitely a difference in attitude, but it's 2 games... and Denver wore them down. On Offense, it's 2 games with a new HC and OC, and almost a game and a half of it has been without Trent Green.

Two games into Herm's tenure, and I'm undecided... just like two games into DV's tenure.

[Cormac]

Herm is behind the 8-ball because of player age and the loss of Roaf, Green, Welbourn and T-Rich. He can never have the same offensive success as we had under DV for those reasons. I fully recognise and acknowledge this fact.

However......

Whenever our team took the field under DV I felt like we should win. On any given day we could beat anybody. I never thought we were overmatched to the point of pessimism. The offense was so potent, our STs were strong (in the first few years), and all it would take was ONE stop by our defense. As it turned out, often enough they couldn't even do that. But they were exciting years, he brought in many quality players like Holmes, Roaf and Green that will go down in Chiefs lore as great players, and he rebuilt a team lacking in character and confidence.

For those reasons, I far prefer the DV era so far. Herm doesn't give me any of the same feeling that he knows what he's doing. He's fighting an uphill battle right now, especially given the loss of personnel.

JMO.

[Coogs]

I'm going to say Herm's style. I liked the aggression the defense showed Sunday. I really believe that type of defense will again turn Arrowhead into a place that opponents hate to play. Even though our record is pretty good the past five years, a loud crowd when we are on defense instead of offense. A crowd that forces the offense to commit penalties because of crowd noise, which often leads to turnovers as a result of down and distance issues.

But then again, I have always liked the smashmouth style of football. The kind of game we saw last night from Jax and Pitt. The kind of game we saw in Denver Sunday.

[ck_IN]

I'd vote for Herm's because Herm seems to be developing a TEAM.

DV couldn't have cared less about the team becausue it only suited his goals to develop an OFFENSE.

[Hydrae]

Having fallen in love with this team during the 1990 season, I really enjoyed the game on Sunday. Defense is my preference and it is looking like we will have one of those under Herm.

It would be nice to expect the offense to be able to move the ball and score though. With Trent in there though I think we would have gone downfield occassionally. Once that happens, I think we will see that this team is pretty well balanced right now. We may be 0-2 but I am not writing off our post season chances yet, no matter what the talking heads have to say on the matter.

[2112]

Originally Posted by jspchief

We haven't seen enough to know what Herm's style is.

sorry dude...

thats definitely it