Trade Offer

RP_McMurphy · 12-10-2007, 09:34 AM

Playing Shack Harris (Jaguars GM) for awhile. Here's a trade offer to the Chiefs. Jaguars starting tackle Khalif Barnes (2005 second rounder from Oregon) for the Chiefs 2nd round pick. Barnes is a quality tackle but has had some off the field issues and appears to be tired of Jax and Jax tired of him. He would help start the rebuilding effort for the Chiefs and start from day one in Kansas City. If I were the Chiefs I would still draft a offensive lineman in the first round to go with Barnes and that would give them a great start at rebuilding their offensive line (I am one that believes that NFL games are won and lost up front). For the Jaguars with their first rounder I would draft a Defensive End and with either of their second rounders I would pick up a tackle and with the other I would go with a strong safety.

**RealSNR** · 12-10-2007, 09:35 AM

A better Oline prospect can be drafted by us than us trading for Barnes

RP_McMurphy · 12-10-2007, 09:42 AM

Is prospect. Do you go with a know quality in Barnes or do you take a risk with prospect (Carl taint exactly been hitting home runs in the draft lately).

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Originally Posted by SNR

A better Oline prospect can be drafted by us than us trading for Barnes

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-10-2007, 09:42 AM

If it was a 4th rounder, I might see why KC would do the deal.

RP_McMurphy · 12-10-2007, 09:44 AM

Fourth rounder.........you been smoking with Ricky and Travis? A quality NFL tackle for a second rounder doesn't come around much.

el borracho · 12-10-2007, 09:45 AM

No, I wouldn't spend a 2nd round pick on someone else's headache.

Frankie · 12-10-2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If it was a 4th rounder, I might see why KC would do the deal.

Especially with the dreaded "off the field trouble" label.

Chiefs_5627 · 12-10-2007, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If it was a 4th rounder, I might see why KC would do the deal.

Yup, with the high pick we'll get this year (hopefully) our 2nd will be an extention of the 1st rnd.

Frankie · 12-10-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy

Fourth rounder.........you been smoking with Ricky and Travis? A quality NFL tackle for a second rounder doesn't come around much.

See above.

Brock · 12-10-2007, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy

Fourth rounder.........you been smoking with Ricky and Travis? A quality NFL tackle for a second rounder doesn't come around much.

This team has enough nutjobs on it, thanks.

**Anyong Bluth** · 12-10-2007, 09:52 AM

Chances are we're going to end up with a top 5 choice, and that means all our rounds choices will be bumped up that high. Giving up a 2nd rounder for him won't happen. No reason to give up a high choice with the prospect of getting a younger, possibly more talented, and cap-friendlier prospect.

This team isn't a few pieces away, so stick with drafting BPA through the draft, and pick up need players thru FA- even if you have to pay a bit more on the open market. For example, a guy like Lilja, KC native, is a 4 year vet and only 26. It's fairly safe to assume that he's got a min. of 8 solid years in him, but still enough that would make any contract he signs be worth it and just as he's entering his "prime" years.

I'd be more than willing to pay up for him b/c you know you've got a quality addition. With the roster turnover that should happen, paying a little more for sure bet FA's is worth it b/c the number of younger guys coming in will free up some cap space.

RP_McMurphy · 12-10-2007, 09:56 AM

I'll sweeten the pot a bit and throw in Matt Jones.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 12-10-2007, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RP_McMurphy

I'll sweeten the pot a bit and throw in Matt Jones.

I'd rather you just throw in an appetizer sampler from that roadhouse BBQ in Excelsior.

Jones is one of the worst 1st round picks of the last 10 years, even though he was a mid-late pick. He makes Mike Mamula look like Zach Thomas.

Zouk · 12-10-2007, 10:02 AM

Pass.

I'd be more curious about your thoughts on Maurice Williams who will be unrestricted at the end of the year.

RP_McMurphy · 12-10-2007, 10:03 AM

Well his nickname in Jax is Mattloaf does that count?

12-10-2007, 09:34 AM
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Anyong Bluth Deus ambulans inter homines Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $9439340	Chances are we're going to end up with a top 5 choice, and that means all our rounds choices will be bumped up that high. Giving up a 2nd rounder for him won't happen. No reason to give up a high choice with the prospect of getting a younger, possibly more talented, and cap-friendlier prospect. This team isn't a few pieces away, so stick with drafting BPA through the draft, and pick up need players thru FA- even if you have to pay a bit more on the open market. For example, a guy like Lilja, KC native, is a 4 year vet and only 26. It's fairly safe to assume that he's got a min. of 8 solid years in him, but still enough that would make any contract he signs be worth it and just as he's entering his "prime" years. I'd be more than willing to pay up for him b/c you know you've got a quality addition. With the roster turnover that should happen, paying a little more for sure bet FA's is worth it b/c the number of younger guys coming in will free up some cap space. __________________ Suck it, *beautiful*
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Zouk Veteran Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: DC Casino cash: $10004900	Pass. I'd be more curious about your thoughts on Maurice Williams who will be unrestricted at the end of the year.
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