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View Poll Results: Would you take an OC who would develop our QB, but won't win games with play calling?
Yes, that's worth it to develop a young QB 10 40.00%
No, a good/great play caller is more important than developing a QB 15 60.00%
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Old 01-12-2008, 07:39 PM  
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Would you take an OC who would develop our QB, but won't win games with play calling?
Would you take an OC who would develop our QB, but won't win games with play calling?

Knowing that we would end up as an average team (7-9, 8-8, 9-7) over the next three years.

But that the record came not from our play calling, but a strong defense, bad to average play calling and an increasingly more effective QB.

Assume the QB that is developing is Brodie Croyle.
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Old 01-12-2008, 07:41 PM   #2
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You mean Mike Shula?
It sounds like you are describing Mike Shula.

I could stomach it for one assumption...
Herm is gone next year, along with his staff.
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Old 01-12-2008, 07:41 PM   #3
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Since I fully expect bad playcalling with an OC that's handcuffed by Herman ****ing Edwards losing philosophy, then yes I would.
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Old 01-12-2008, 07:42 PM   #4
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i would think an increasingly more effective qb would result in more wins by overcoming bad play calling.
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Old 01-12-2008, 07:47 PM   #5
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You mean Mike Shula?
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Old 01-12-2008, 07:49 PM   #6
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For the most part, a QB who develops becomes a winning QB.

Im not sure i understand the point of this thread??
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Old 01-12-2008, 07:52 PM   #7
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huh?

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Old 01-12-2008, 07:54 PM   #8
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For the most part, a QB who develops becomes a winning QB.

Im not sure i understand the point of this thread??
Cam Cameron made Rivers look better than je is with playcalling last year.

This year Rivers regressed, so in the end, Cameron was a great play caller who really didn't effectively develop his QB.
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Old 01-12-2008, 07:58 PM   #10
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Cam Cameron made Rivers look better than je is with playcalling last year.

This year Rivers regressed, so in the end, Cameron was a great play caller who really didn't effectively develop his QB.
OK, but Jaz asked just the oposite of that.


Developing a QB, playcalling and winning, go hand in hand. WHat he asks doesnt make any sense to me.
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OK, but Jaz asked just the oposite of that.


Developing a QB, playcalling and winning, go hand in hand. WHat he asks doesnt make any sense to me.
A coach can be fantastic QB coach and a crappy OC because he can't manage the playcalling.
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Since I fully expect bad playcalling with an OC that's handcuffed by Herman ****ing Edwards losing philosophy, then yes I would.

Herm's philosophy is just like Dungy's, Lovie's, and Jacksonville's Jack....
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I don't know a whole bunch about how an NFL coaching staff is set up, but isn't it reasonable to expect the OC to be a decent playcaller, and the job of developing the QB to go to the QB coach?
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