A dash of Curry solidifies Chiefs defense.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Obviously, the Chiefs are going to the 3-4.

Lets look at the Defensive line first. The Chiefs have a couple of guys in Boone and McBride that are DE/DT hybrids. They will be able to play DE in the 3-4. McBride has focused on staying slim while in the NFL becuse he was playing end in the 4-3. He will be allowed to Bulk up. Boone is a heck of a fit in the 3-4 as well.

Dorsey often tied up two blockers last year. He will also be allowed to go inside and outside. Perhaps not the prototypical NT... but a guy who has flexibility and will be better at NT than some in here realize. In college, he was asked to merely hold the line of scrimage. He wasn't asked to get upfield. In the 3-4, it will be very similar whether he plays end or NT.

Tank will play the nose exclusively, which should be a good fit on run downs. We also still have Ron Edwards, who is a big body that can rotate in at NT.

Now, linebacker, the OLB's are Hali and Vrabel. Hali should get double digit sacks this year with the switch to the 3-4. He won't be on the line every down which should keep the wear and tear on his body down a bit. It will allow him to be in space, which he plays well in.

I know that some don't think he is fast enough. I think those guys are foolish, but then again, they think I am foolish for thinking he will be a great fit. The great thing is that we will get to see this year who is right.

DJ will move inside. This will help DJ's game. The defensive line for the 3-4 isn't trying to get upfield. They are merely trying to hold the line of scrimage. This will allow DJ to play sideline to sideline and make more plays.

Now, the secondary was pretty good last year. Bernard Pollard will be allowed to play inside the box more and Page will be more of a traditional safety. Morgan is the x factor here because he has more ranged than Pollard and is a better tackler than Page.

The Chiefs starting corners are pretty solid with Carr and Flowers. With the additional pass rush that the Chiefs should be getting, I expect that these guys will do just fine.

Now, comes the spice of the defense.... Curry. Curry is an absolute beast that will roam the middle of the field and make tackle after tackle. Curry is good in coverage, and will be able to rush the passer from the middle of the field on blitz's. This will allow him to be more effective rushing the passer. Inside blitzes are effective because of the speed of the blitzer and a lane created by the outside rush. Curry is fast enough, that he will be able to disquise the blitzes very well and won't have to be close to the line of scrimage to be effective. Curry is the best fit for this team at #3, and will make the biggest impact of any player the Chiefs can draft IMO.

I know I will get flamed for this. I know that some think that McBride, Hali and Dorsey are busts. I think that they are players in the Patriots mold. Guys who love the game, who are smart and who never give up.

I hope that Curry somehow falls to the Chiefs, because if he does, the Chiefs will have a defense that will be at least top half of the league next year, if not top 10.

He is a dynamic leader on defense, and I think the next Ray Lewis. As such, I think he is worth the #3 pick.

Now, flame away. After having the Chiefs effectively remove the option of drafting the dirty Sanchez.... nothing can bring me down....

[keg in kc]

Hey, just what we needed, another Curry thread combined with a Hali's going to be a stud 3-4 OLB thread.

I think it's reerun day on bizarro-world.

[KC Jones]

[Brock]

It amazes me what some people think is original and interesting.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Hey, just what we needed, another Curry thread combined with a Hali's going to be a stud 3-4 OLB thread.

I think it's reerun day on bizarro-world.

This guy can not be serious really.

[The Bad Guy]

I want Aaron Curry.

But there is no way he solidifies anything.

The Chiefs still need a NT, they still need another outside LB, and they still need another DE like Igor.

[MGRS13]

Originally Posted by Mecca

This guy can not be serious really.

Serious? After he said the defense could be possible top 10 I thought he was trying for funniest post of the year. I mean this is a joke right?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by MGRS13

Serious? After he said the defense could be possible top 10 I thought he was trying for funniest post of the year. I mean this is a joke right?

It's almost as funny as him saying Hali will be awesome as a 3-4 OLB.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's almost as funny as him saying Hali will be awesome as a 3-4 OLB.

Or that Herm is staying.

Or the hundreds of completely short bus-esque posts he's made on here.

[MGRS13]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's almost as funny as him saying Hali will be awesome as a 3-4 OLB.

He will be awesome as a 3-4 LB. You know when he finally gets cut from here and gets picked up by some other team for their practice squad where he gets to play 3 or 4 plays per practice. Badoom Ching..........I know I know it wasn't that funny but after this original post in this thread every thing pales in comparison.

[Ultra Peanut]

That tears it. Curry's going to be the biggest bust since Ryan Leaf.

[bowener]

I am curious to know what the Patriots graded Hali on draft day.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by bowener

I am curious to know what the Patriots graded Hali on draft day.

Probably didn't even have him on the board as a "he didn't fit our scheme" guy.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Obviously, the Chiefs are going to the 3-4.

Lets look at the Defensive line first. The Chiefs have a couple of guys in Boone and McBride that are DE/DT hybrids. They will be able to play DE in the 3-4. McBride has focused on staying slim while in the NFL becuse he was playing end in the 4-3. He will be allowed to Bulk up. Boone is a heck of a fit in the 3-4 as well.

Dorsey often tied up two blockers last year. He will also be allowed to go inside and outside. Perhaps not the prototypical NT... but a guy who has flexibility and will be better at NT than some in here realize. In college, he was asked to merely hold the line of scrimage. He wasn't asked to get upfield. In the 3-4, it will be very similar whether he plays end or NT.

Tank will play the nose exclusively, which should be a good fit on run downs. We also still have Ron Edwards, who is a big body that can rotate in at NT.

Now, linebacker, the OLB's are Hali and Vrabel. Hali should get double digit sacks this year with the switch to the 3-4. He won't be on the line every down which should keep the wear and tear on his body down a bit. It will allow him to be in space, which he plays well in.

I know that some don't think he is fast enough. I think those guys are foolish, but then again, they think I am foolish for thinking he will be a great fit. The great thing is that we will get to see this year who is right.

DJ will move inside. This will help DJ's game. The defensive line for the 3-4 isn't trying to get upfield. They are merely trying to hold the line of scrimage. This will allow DJ to play sideline to sideline and make more plays.

Now, the secondary was pretty good last year. Bernard Pollard will be allowed to play inside the box more and Page will be more of a traditional safety. Morgan is the x factor here because he has more ranged than Pollard and is a better tackler than Page.

The Chiefs starting corners are pretty solid with Carr and Flowers. With the additional pass rush that the Chiefs should be getting, I expect that these guys will do just fine.

Now, comes the spice of the defense.... Curry. Curry is an absolute beast that will roam the middle of the field and make tackle after tackle. Curry is good in coverage, and will be able to rush the passer from the middle of the field on blitz's. This will allow him to be more effective rushing the passer. Inside blitzes are effective because of the speed of the blitzer and a lane created by the outside rush. Curry is fast enough, that he will be able to disquise the blitzes very well and won't have to be close to the line of scrimage to be effective. Curry is the best fit for this team at #3, and will make the biggest impact of any player the Chiefs can draft IMO.

I know I will get flamed for this. I know that some think that McBride, Hali and Dorsey are busts. I think that they are players in the Patriots mold. Guys who love the game, who are smart and who never give up.

I hope that Curry somehow falls to the Chiefs, because if he does, the Chiefs will have a defense that will be at least top half of the league next year, if not top 10.

He is a dynamic leader on defense, and I think the next Ray Lewis. As such, I think he is worth the #3 pick.

Now, flame away. After having the Chiefs effectively remove the option of drafting the dirty Sanchez.... nothing can bring me down....

Lots of things wrong here. Type in "Dorsey 3-4" in google and see what you get. Dorsey is not a nose tackle. Most scouts have him pegged as a 1-gap defensive tackle. He's a guy that is at his best exploding into the backfield, not a guy who should be engaging a lot of blockers. Yes, he played a lot of 2-gap in college, but he also got away with bullrushing far weaker players into the backfield in college--he won't do that in the NFL. He is also known to have fairly weak knees which is a huge knock on a guy who would play a position where leverage is king.

Second point, Hali is not an OLB. Let's stop this illusion right now. A 3-4 DE/OLB must be a "tweener." He must have the athleticism to take his hands off the ground in drop into pass coverage on many of the downs. Hali does not have that. In fact, his 40 time was absolutely miserable in the combine. Hali is pegged as a rotational DE and that's that. Keep in mind that as an OLB in the 3-4, Hali would be just as responsible for moving around as a DE as he would moving around as a LB and he is just not athletic enough to do that. Hali is not a tweener. We learned quickly when he was forced to square off against athletic, sure-footed left tackles that Hali is not nearly as fast and explosive as we thought. He's not fast, and that's a huge knock on a guy who will be playing a position where he'll have to be agile and quick.

Tank might have potential as a nose, but he also is noted to have a low motor--that's not a good attribute for a player who is taking on one of the most physically demanding positions in the game.

Finally, Curry will be great no matter where he goes. But his talent would be wasted in a 3-4. The ILBs are not the strength of a 3-4. You typically have one guy in coverage and another guy who is a pure run-stuffer. A versatile, multi-dimensional ILB goes to waste. And he is way too small to be an OLB/DE--most of those guys are DEs who convert into OLBs.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Lots of things wrong here. Type in "Dorsey 3-4" in google and see what you get. Dorsey is not a nose tackle. Most scouts have him pegged as a 1-gap defensive tackle. He's a guy that is at his best exploding into the backfield, not a guy who should be engaging a lot of blockers. Yes, he played a lot of 2-gap in college, but he also got away with bullrushing far weaker players into the backfield in college--he won't do that in the NFL. He is also known to have fairly weak knees which is a huge knock on a guy who would play a position where leverage is king.

Second point, Hali is not an OLB. Let's stop this illusion right now. A 3-4 DE/OLB must be a "tweener." He must have the athleticism to take his hands off the ground in drop into pass coverage on many of the downs. Hali does not have that. In fact, his 40 time was absolutely miserable in the combine. Hali is pegged as a rotational DE and that's that. Keep in mind that as an OLB in the 3-4, Hali would be just as responsible for moving around as a DE as he would moving around as a LB and he is just not athletic enough to do that. Hali is not a tweener. We learned quickly when he was forced to square off against athletic, sure-footed left tackles that Hali is not nearly as fast and explosive as we thought. He's not fast, and that's a huge knock on a guy who will be playing a position where he'll have to be agile and quick.

Tank might have potential as a nose, but he also is noted to have a low motor--that's not a good attribute for a player who is taking on one of the most physically demanding positions in the game.

Finally, Curry will be great no matter where he goes. But his talent would be wasted in a 3-4. The ILBs are not the strength of a 3-4. You typically have one guy in coverage and another guy who is a pure run-stuffer. A versatile, multi-dimensional ILB goes to waste. And he is way too small to be an OLB/DE--most of those guys are DEs who convert into OLBs.

Nice post, zilla. You just smacked some sense into this Chiefs fan with your updated draft chart.