Chiefs Thank goodness Allen is gone.

SenselessChiefsFan · 10-06-2009, 06:48 AM

If Allen were not traded, the Chiefs don't go 2-14 last year. The Chiefs don't set the record for fewest sacks in a year. The Chiefs don't have massive changes.

CP probably would have stuck it out at least another year. If not, the Chiefs would have probably gone with Kuharich, whom most believed was being groomed to be CP's replacement.

With CP or Kuharich, and a decent season, Herm Edwards would be strolling up and down the sidelines right now.

The reality is that it took a total shit season to cause the massive changes with the Chiefs.

And, with Jared Allen.... the Chiefs would have not had a massively shit season.

Heck, with Kuharich, Herm and Allen, the Chiefs would in fact be better than they are right now. I truly believe that. But, they would still be mediocre.

This is painful. This is the worst I have ever seen as a Chiefs fan....even worse than the 80's.

But, as bad as it is, I would rather build something with Pioli that I think can be great someday, than continue to be a 'decent' team over the next 20 years and struggle to win a playoff game.

So, yeah, Allen had a great game last night. (don't forget the line he faced was worse, much worse, than the Chiefs) Allen is a great player. But, the loss of Allen gave us more than just a few picks. It gave us a new GM. It gave us a new head coach. It gave us a new foundation. It gave us a new direction.

So, good riddance Jared Allen.

**Bane** · 10-06-2009, 06:58 AM

I can't go along with that one.I'll never think that trading JA was a good thing.Maybe the team didn't have the money to spend in that area at the time,but I hate loosing players like him.People always say you draft the best player available,versus the player you actually need.Well that's just reeruned in my opinion,cause if that's the key to victory,then you should also keep the best players you have.
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munkey · 10-06-2009, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

So, yeah, Allen had a great game last night. (don't forget the line he faced was worse, much worse, than the Chiefs)

The Green Bay second and third string offensive lineman are better than our starters...

Did they not put up 20 points? We'd be lucky to get three points against Minny's "D".

**Bane** · 10-06-2009, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by munkey

The Green Bay second and third string offensive lineman are better than our starters...

Did they not put up 20 points? We'd be lucky to get three points against Minny's "D".

Yeah that's where he lost me at,with their line being worse than ours.
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Mecca · 10-06-2009, 07:12 AM

Last night with Clifton and Colledge out it was pretty Chiefs esq.

Fritz88 · 10-06-2009, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Last night with Clifton and Colledge out it was pretty Chiefs esq.

Bad, but not Chiefs bad.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-06-2009, 07:31 AM

First Allen

Then Gonzolez

Then Pollard

None of these moves benefited the team

KCUnited · 10-06-2009, 07:40 AM

The thought of Allen dropping back into coverage makes me chuckle. You could see the disdain in Kampman's face last night.

htismaqe · 10-06-2009, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

I can't go along with that one.I'll never think that trading JA was a good thing.Maybe the team didn't have the money to spend in that area at the time,but I hate loosing players like him.People always say you draft the best player available,versus the player you actually need.Well that's just reeruned in my opinion,cause if that's the key to victory,then you should also keep the best players you have.
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Jared Allen alone isn't enough to overcome the 20-year stench of Carl Peterson. Keeping Allen was only prolonging the inevitable.

Reerun_KC · 10-06-2009, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer

First Allen

Then Carl

Then Herm

Then Gonzolez

Then Pollard

None of these moves benefited the team

WTF?

Reerun_KC · 10-06-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Jared Allen alone isn't enough to overcome the 20-year stench of Carl Peterson. Keeping Allen was only prolonging the inevitable.

This...

New Era in Chiefs football..

**Bane** · 10-06-2009, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Jared Allen alone isn't enough to overcome the 20-year stench of Carl Peterson. Keeping Allen was only prolonging the inevitable.

Maybe so...I just hear coaches always preaching that if you have good players you will improve.So to me trading good players just isn't the thing to do if you are trying to improve.We can beat this to death for the next 20 years.JA is gone,done deal,nuff said.
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jspchief · 10-06-2009, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Jared Allen alone isn't enough to overcome the 20-year stench of Carl Peterson. Keeping Allen was only prolonging the inevitable.

Bullshit.

Keeping the best defensive player the team has had in a decade as he's entering his prime is laying the foundation for a good team.

The Chiefs needed to overcome years of poor draft and free agent evaluation. They didn't need to overcome the one time they got lucky.

Reerun_KC · 10-06-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bane_58

Maybe so...I just hear coaches always preaching that if you have good players you will improve.So to me trading good players just isn't the thing to do if you are tryong to improve.We can beat this to death for the next 20 years.JA is gone,done deal,nuff said.
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True, but this is the first year of the new regime...

How can we know if in fact that they are going to suck... Unless you listen to Mecca? Then the sky is falling and the sun is right behind it....

**Bane** · 10-06-2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

True, but this is the first year of the new regime...

How can we know if in fact that they are going to suck... Unless you listen to Mecca? Then the sky is falling and the sun is right behind it....

Listen to Mecca?I might be some dumb,but I'm not plum dumb!!!!!Rofl
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10-06-2009, 06:48 AM
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Thank goodness Allen is gone. If Allen were not traded, the Chiefs don't go 2-14 last year. The Chiefs don't set the record for fewest sacks in a year. The Chiefs don't have massive changes. CP probably would have stuck it out at least another year. If not, the Chiefs would have probably gone with Kuharich, whom most believed was being groomed to be CP's replacement. With CP or Kuharich, and a decent season, Herm Edwards would be strolling up and down the sidelines right now. The reality is that it took a total shit season to cause the massive changes with the Chiefs. And, with Jared Allen.... the Chiefs would have not had a massively shit season. Heck, with Kuharich, Herm and Allen, the Chiefs would in fact be better than they are right now. I truly believe that. But, they would still be mediocre. This is painful. This is the worst I have ever seen as a Chiefs fan....even worse than the 80's. But, as bad as it is, I would rather build something with Pioli that I think can be great someday, than continue to be a 'decent' team over the next 20 years and struggle to win a playoff game. So, yeah, Allen had a great game last night. (don't forget the line he faced was worse, much worse, than the Chiefs) Allen is a great player. But, the loss of Allen gave us more than just a few picks. It gave us a new GM. It gave us a new head coach. It gave us a new foundation. It gave us a new direction. So, good riddance Jared Allen.
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Bane C.H.I.E.F.S Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: **** your face Casino cash: $10005055	I can't go along with that one.I'll never think that trading JA was a good thing.Maybe the team didn't have the money to spend in that area at the time,but I hate loosing players like him.People always say you draft the best player available,versus the player you actually need.Well that's just reeruned in my opinion,cause if that's the key to victory,then you should also keep the best players you have. Posted via Mobile Device
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-712950	Last night with Clifton and Colledge out it was pretty Chiefs esq.
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1539523	First Allen Then Gonzolez Then Pollard None of these moves benefited the team
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KCUnited Cheat Death Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln Casino cash: $-1621756	The thought of Allen dropping back into coverage makes me chuckle. You could see the disdain in Kampman's face last night.
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