Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Chiefs If the Chiefs take Berry, or Clausen, in this draft....
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

Reply
Page 1 of 6 1 2345 Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-06-2010, 10:12 AM   Topic Starter
milkman milkman is offline
Dumbass!
 
milkman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Leading the Marty bashing
Casino cash: $10029395
If the Chiefs take Berry, or Clausen, in this draft....
I'm curious.

I see so many posts that basically paint Pioli as a moron that would pass on both of these guys because they don't fit into the perception that Pioli values certain positions, or has to protect his investment in Cassel so he doesn't look like a dumbass for making that trade (that ship has sailed as far as I'm concerned, but that's another discussion).

If the Chiefs do take Berry or Clausen, does this change your perception, and how much does it change it?
Posts: 70,769
milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:13 AM   #2
MoreLemonPledge MoreLemonPledge is offline
M-I-Z S-E-C
 
MoreLemonPledge's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2009
Casino cash: $10004927
If he takes Berry it changes it, but not Clausen.
__________________
Posts: 6,039
MoreLemonPledge Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MoreLemonPledge Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MoreLemonPledge Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MoreLemonPledge Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MoreLemonPledge Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MoreLemonPledge Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MoreLemonPledge Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MoreLemonPledge Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MoreLemonPledge Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MoreLemonPledge Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.MoreLemonPledge Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:19 AM   #3
milkman milkman is offline
Dumbass!
 
milkman's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Leading the Marty bashing
Casino cash: $10029395
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge View Post
If he takes Berry it changes it, but not Clausen.
Care to expand on that?

For me, if he takes Berry, then I still think he's a dumbass who isn't quite stupid enough to **** up this virtual no-brainer (though Saccoshit leads me to believe there is no such thing as a no-brainer).

If he takes Clausen, even though I'm not entirely sold on his potential, it tells me that Pioli isn't afraid to admit he made a mistake and will work to correct it.

Clausen would have a far more positive affect on my opinion of Pioli, even though I am far more sold on Berry's potential than on Clausen's.
__________________
Posts: 70,769
milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:20 AM   #4
SAUTO SAUTO is offline
Shit
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Casino cash: $10039067
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman View Post
Care to expand on that?

For me, if he takes Berry, then I still think he's a dumbass who isn't quite stupid enough to **** up this virtual no-brainer (though Saccoshit leads me to believe there is no such thing as a no-brainer).

If he takes Clausen, even though I'm not entirely sold on his potential, it tells me that Pioli isn't afraid to admit he made a mistake and will work to correct it.

Clausen would have a far more positive affect on my opinion of Pioli, even though I am far more sold on Berry's potential than on Clausen's.
what if pioli thinks higher of the qbs that could be available next year?
Posts: 55,715
SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:24 AM   #5
Bane Bane is offline
C.H.I.E.F.S
 
Bane's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: **** your face
Casino cash: $10005055
Quote:
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO View Post
what if pioli thinks higher of the qbs that could be available next year?
Very interesting. Having said that,how do you pass on a guy like Clausen,if you think he has the "it" that everyone covets at the Qb position?I don't think they'll take Clausen even if he's there,but I cant wait to find out.
Posts: 12,621
Bane 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBane 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBane 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBane 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBane 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBane 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBane 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBane 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBane 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBane 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliBane 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:27 AM   #6
SAUTO SAUTO is offline
Shit
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Casino cash: $10039067
Quote:
Originally Posted by bane_58 View Post
Very interesting. Having said that,how do you pass on a guy like Clausen,if you think he has the "it" that everyone covets at the Qb position?I don't think they'll take Clausen even if he's there,but I cant wait to find out.
could be several highly thought of guys available next year. gabbert for one. i would rather have gabbert than clausen, but thats just my opinion.
Posts: 55,715
SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:25 AM   #7
Deberg_1990 Deberg_1990 is offline
In Search of a Life
 
Deberg_1990's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: San Antonio Tx.
Casino cash: $-5546
Quote:
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO View Post
what if pioli thinks higher of the qbs that could be available next year?
I dont think they think that far ahead. How could anyone possibly know how the upcoming season will shape out and what the draft order would be??
Posts: 68,788
Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Deberg_1990 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:29 AM   #8
SAUTO SAUTO is offline
Shit
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Casino cash: $10039067
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 View Post
I dont think they think that far ahead. How could anyone possibly know how the upcoming season will shape out and what the draft order would be??
uuummm yeah they do. remember when we drafted morgan? that was from watching the guy we drafted the year before. what about all the LSU guys in a row? from scouting the guy from the year before. and the draft is fluid. the pats ALWAYS have stockpiled picks to move around.
Posts: 55,715
SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:27 AM   #9
cdcox cdcox is offline
www.nfl-forecast.com
 
cdcox's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Casino cash: $-648231
Quote:
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO View Post
what if pioli thinks higher of the qbs that could be available next year?
If he isn't planning on his team being shitty enough to be in a position to draft one of them, it doesn't matter. If you think you need a franchise QB and you get the chance to draft one, you do it. You may think that next year's draft is better, but you have no way of knowing if you'll get a chance at one of those guys when you are on the clock this year.
Posts: 46,037
cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.cdcox is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:28 AM   #10
milkman milkman is offline
Dumbass!
 
milkman's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Leading the Marty bashing
Casino cash: $10029395
Quote:
Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO View Post
what if pioli thinks higher of the qbs that could be available next year?
f he felt he had to draft a 5 tec in the top 5, he should have passed on Tyson Jackson last year and waited for the opportunity to draft Suh this year.

The fact is, there's no guarantee that he'd be in postion to draft a QB next year.

He also has to look at the WR class next year and think about value over the two drafts.
__________________
Posts: 70,769
milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:30 AM   #11
SAUTO SAUTO is offline
Shit
 

Join Date: Jun 2008
Casino cash: $10039067
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman View Post
f he felt he had to draft a 5 tec in the top 5, he should have passed on Tyson Jackson last year and waited for the opportunity to draft Suh this year.

The fact is, there's no guarantee that he'd be in postion to draft a QB next year.

He also has to look at the WR class next year and think about value over the two drafts.
now THAT is something that throws a wrench into it, BUT what about all these guys that say they dont think that far ahead?
Posts: 55,715
SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.SAUTO is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:27 AM   #12
Bugeater Bugeater is offline
The Maintenance Guy
 
Bugeater's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Renovated Bugeater Estate
Casino cash: $3992680
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman View Post
Care to expand on that?

For me, if he takes Berry, then I still think he's a dumbass who isn't quite stupid enough to **** up this virtual no-brainer (though Saccoshit leads me to believe there is no such thing as a no-brainer).

If he takes Clausen, even though I'm not entirely sold on his potential, it tells me that Pioli isn't afraid to admit he made a mistake and will work to correct it.

Clausen would have a far more positive affect on my opinion of Pioli, even though I am far more sold on Berry's potential than on Clausen's.
I would be absolutely floored if he picked Clausen, you very rarely, if ever, see a person in his position admit he made a mistake.
Posts: 70,546
Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.Bugeater is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:31 AM   #13
beach tribe beach tribe is offline
Keep doubting J MFing Houston
 
beach tribe's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2007
Location: ft.lauderdale
Casino cash: $3868036
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman View Post
Care to expand on that?

For me, if he takes Berry, then I still think he's a dumbass who isn't quite stupid enough to **** up this virtual no-brainer (though Saccoshit leads me to believe there is no such thing as a no-brainer).

If he takes Clausen, even though I'm not entirely sold on his potential, it tells me that Pioli isn't afraid to admit he made a mistake and will work to correct it.

Clausen would have a far more positive affect on my opinion of Pioli, even though I am far more sold on Berry's potential than on Clausen's.
What if Weis told Pioli that Clausen, and Cassel, are basically the same dude, and we would be just as well off w/ Cassel, and O-line help. Just Sayin. We don't know these things.
Any way IMO If they are both avilable, I say you go after BOTH as hard as you can.
Package up those two 2nds and, and whatever else, and try to move back in, and take Clausen.
My God, I would shit myself.
Posts: 21,429
beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.beach tribe is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:23 AM   #14
TRR TRR is offline
The Priest and I
 
TRR's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: CO
Casino cash: $9420185
Quote:
Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge View Post
If he takes Berry it changes it, but not Clausen.
I agree whole-heartedly. Although getting THAT excited over drafting a safety at #5 doesn't extremely win me over.

I'll puke if he drafts Jimmy "I get punched by my own fans" Clausen.
Posted via Mobile Device
Posts: 7,373
TRR must have mowed badgirl's lawn.TRR must have mowed badgirl's lawn.TRR must have mowed badgirl's lawn.TRR must have mowed badgirl's lawn.TRR must have mowed badgirl's lawn.TRR must have mowed badgirl's lawn.TRR must have mowed badgirl's lawn.TRR must have mowed badgirl's lawn.TRR must have mowed badgirl's lawn.TRR must have mowed badgirl's lawn.TRR must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
     Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2010, 10:13 AM   #15
Crush Crush is offline
Amateur Poster
 
Crush's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Casino cash: $2187091
If he takes Clausen, I will worship the ground that he walks on. I am so desperate for a franchise QB that it is becoming pathetic.

If he takes Berry, I will be ecstatic that he didn't **** up the pick.

If he takes Okung/Bulaga/Campbell, I will sigh and wonder what if he even knows what he is doing.
Posts: 15,298
Crush has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Crush has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Crush has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Crush has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Crush has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Crush has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Crush has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Crush has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Crush has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Crush has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.Crush has parlayed a career as a truck driver into debt free trailer and jon boat ownership.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 1 of 6 1 2345 Last »

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Hybrid Mode Hybrid Mode

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:27 AM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.