Chiefs Who thinks Cassel is the next Len Dawson?

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-03-2009, 07:35 AM

I read in Gretz's column this morning that the Chiefs are trying to prevent all the fans from thinking that Cassel is the second coming of Len Dawson. He went on to say that it was impossible, because Chiefs fans already think that.

I am wondering who? Who really thinks that? I like the move because it gives us a good prospect for a second round pick. I like the move because I feel like Cassel is at the very least, a John Kitna type QB who can manage the game. That is a nice 'starting' point. It solidifies the position. They aren't under any pressure to draft a guy early to try to 'solve' a problem. Now, they can draft guys late at the QB position in hopes of developing them down the road.

I don't even look at Cassel as the absolute starter on opening day. Yes, I think it is likely that happens. However, if Thigpen takes a big step forward, and Cassel doesn't look great, then Thigpen 'could' be the guy.

In other words, I don't think that Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I 'hope' Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I think Cassel is still ascending in his career.

Heck, I hope that Cassel is the next Trent Green. Seriously, if Cassel can be as effective in this system as Green was in Saunder's system... then the Chiefs made a great move. Especially considering that Cassel would be able to play for a decade here, or nearly twice as long as Trent Green.

Anyways, I don't get the sense that the Chiefs fans think this guy is the next Len Dawson. Am I wrong? Do you think he is the next Len Dawson?

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-03-2009, 07:40 AM

I really don't know. I just hope we improve this D, so Cassel can lead this team to some wins.

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-29-2012, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

I really don't know. I just hope we improve this D, so Cassel can lead this team to some wins.

LOL

Mecca · 03-03-2009, 07:42 AM

I dunno the same people who think Tamba Hali can play OLB?

**Mr. Kotter** · 03-03-2009, 07:47 AM

Dawson?

Heck, I'd be pleased as punch if he's the second coming of Trent Green.

**MahiMike** · 03-03-2009, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Dawson?

Heck, I'd be pleased as punch if he's the second coming of Trent Green.

Exactly. Trent was the best QB this team ever had (in Al's system).

Cassel is much better than Kitna. I'd say closer to a Brad Johnson when he was with the Vikings.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-03-2009, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike

Exactly. Trent was the best QB this team ever had (in Al's system).

Cassel is much better than Kitna. I'd say closer to a Brad Johnson when he was with the Vikings.

Glad to know we could have had Stafford instead of Brad Johnson with the Vikings.

Mecca · 03-03-2009, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Glad to know we could have had Stafford instead of Brad Johnson with the Vikings.

Yea no kidding.

I enjoyed all the 180 views that happened in a finger snap.

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-03-2009, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Glad to know we could have had Stafford instead of Brad Johnson with the Vikings.

#1) I don't think Stafford will be available. So, I dont' think the Chiefs could have had Stafford.

#2) The Chiefs certainly could not have taken Stafford with the 34th pick.

#3) The Chiefs would have had to give up at least a late round pick to get Vrabel.

#4) Finally, I liked Stafford. I think he is the cream of the crop and that is the only QB that I would have liked to see at #3. With THAT said, time will tell how good the guy is. Maybe he is the next John Elway, which is who he reminds me of, and who I think he will compare to. Or, maybe he is the next Ryan Leaf.

Either way, the Chiefs have two solid players for the 34th pick AND they can still take a stud at #3, OR trade down and acquire more picks.

Oh, and I think the only way they get Stafford is to trade up, but I could be wrong.

Tiger's Fan · 03-03-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Glad to know we could have had Stafford instead of Brad Johnson with the Vikings.

**jAZ** · 03-03-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Heck, I'd be pleased as punch if he's the second coming of Trent Green.

That's what people expect he will be. Now if Trent had won a Super Bowl... ? But he didn't even get a win in the playoffs.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-03-2009, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jAZ

That's what people expect he will be. Now if Trent had won a Super Bowl... ? But he didn't even get a win in the playoffs.

They're really aiming high, aren't they?

SenselessChiefsFan · 03-03-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan

They're really aiming high, aren't they?

Few could logically say that Green was the reason the Chiefs didn't win a Super Bowl.

All the Stafford and Sanchez over Curry Arguments were based on if Sanchez or Stafford were just 'top 10' QB's in the NFL, then they are worth more than the best linebacker in the NFL.

Trent Green was top ten in four of the five years he started a full season. He was probably top five in those for years, but easily top ten.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-03-2009, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Kotter

Dawson?

Heck, I'd be pleased as punch if he's the second coming of Trent Green.

Another system QB who can't do jackshit without a Hall of Fame line blocking for him?

No thanks.

The Buddha · 03-03-2009, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Another system QB who can't do jackshit without a Hall of Fame line blocking for him?

No thanks.

Ne never got the chance to do jack shit without a Hall of Fame line.

It looked bad for all few quarters it happened, but we'll still never know.

03-03-2009, 07:35 AM	Topic Starter
SenselessChiefsFan MVP Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10005450	Who thinks Cassel is the next Len Dawson? I read in Gretz's column this morning that the Chiefs are trying to prevent all the fans from thinking that Cassel is the second coming of Len Dawson. He went on to say that it was impossible, because Chiefs fans already think that. I am wondering who? Who really thinks that? I like the move because it gives us a good prospect for a second round pick. I like the move because I feel like Cassel is at the very least, a John Kitna type QB who can manage the game. That is a nice 'starting' point. It solidifies the position. They aren't under any pressure to draft a guy early to try to 'solve' a problem. Now, they can draft guys late at the QB position in hopes of developing them down the road. I don't even look at Cassel as the absolute starter on opening day. Yes, I think it is likely that happens. However, if Thigpen takes a big step forward, and Cassel doesn't look great, then Thigpen 'could' be the guy. In other words, I don't think that Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I 'hope' Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I think Cassel is still ascending in his career. Heck, I hope that Cassel is the next Trent Green. Seriously, if Cassel can be as effective in this system as Green was in Saunder's system... then the Chiefs made a great move. Especially considering that Cassel would be able to play for a decade here, or nearly twice as long as Trent Green. Anyways, I don't get the sense that the Chiefs fans think this guy is the next Len Dawson. Am I wrong? Do you think he is the next Len Dawson?
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-702950	I dunno the same people who think Tamba Hali can play OLB?
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