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Old 08-26-2019, 12:41 PM   Topic Starter
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I have an idea for a t-shirt design that I think would be very popular with the Chiefs family and other teams. From what I've read, being a peon compared to the commercial companies out there who license NFL logos, I'd likely never get consideration.

Searched CP and didn't see this come up as a thread...wondering if anyone here has been through anything like this.

Second part to this question...can you legally just use the name "KC CHIEFS" in a different font and be OK with copyright law?

Thanks in advance for the advice.
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Old 08-26-2019, 12:43 PM   #2
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Whoops; wrong forum...can a mod move me over to the lounge? Sorry.
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Old 08-26-2019, 12:55 PM   #3
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What if we just turned the thread into a discussion of politically incorrect professional sports teams names, mascots, and logos?

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Old 08-26-2019, 01:02 PM   #4
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What if we just turned the thread into a discussion of politically incorrect professional sports teams names, mascots, and logos?

That would be funny; see how far we could stretch the envelope.
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Old 08-26-2019, 01:40 PM   #5
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That would be funny; see how far we could stretch the envelope.
Ok, I'll start.

The Chiefs should change their name to "the Native American Tribal Leaders."

The NATLs. Some people might confuse the abbreviation for Major League Baseball's Washington Nationals, but it seems like a small price to pay for political correctness.

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Old 08-26-2019, 12:48 PM   #6
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Old 08-26-2019, 02:27 PM   #7
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I have an idea for a t-shirt design that I think would be very popular with the Chiefs family and other teams. From what I've read, being a peon compared to the commercial companies out there who license NFL logos, I'd likely never get consideration.

Searched CP and didn't see this come up as a thread...wondering if anyone here has been through anything like this.

Second part to this question...can you legally just use the name "KC CHIEFS" in a different font and be OK with copyright law?

Thanks in advance for the advice.
You're talking about a Trademark protection, when it comes to an NFL team's name, though it seems you're referring to their brand name than a mere business or trade name. Copyright protects artistic and literary works. Both offer intellectual property protection.

To answer your question, I found this. Hope it helps.

https://www.upcounsel.com/what-does-a-trademark-protect

You might want to try one of those free legal sites and ask the question. Using KC Chiefs when writing something about them isn't quite the same thing as you're talking about, but which is okay.
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Old 08-26-2019, 11:49 PM   #8
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I have an idea for a t-shirt design that I think would be very popular with the Chiefs family and other teams. From what I've read, being a peon compared to the commercial companies out there who license NFL logos, I'd likely never get consideration.

Searched CP and didn't see this come up as a thread...wondering if anyone here has been through anything like this.

Second part to this question...can you legally just use the name "KC CHIEFS" in a different font and be OKwith copyright law?

Thanks in advance for the advice.
Um...no.
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Old 08-27-2019, 03:29 AM   #9
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That may be the criteria they use to crack down on such things, but it is not a legal criteria. Someone can go after a hobbyist or a fan if they wanted to enforce their rights to that degree. Of course, they may not but that's a voluntary choice—not a legal requirement. Same with copyright.

Also, if they do, usually companies have a letter from an attorney asking you cease what you're doing before suing.
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That may be the criteria they use to crack down on such things, but it is not a legal criteria. Someone can go after a hobbyist or a fan if they wanted to enforce their rights to that degree. Of course, they may not but that's a voluntary choice—not a legal requirement. Same with copyright.

Also, if they do, usually companies have a letter from an attorney asking you cease what you're doing before suing.
No they can't. The only way you would ever run into legal trouble is trying to sell products using their logo/trademark. For that you have to pay a licensing fee.
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No they can't. The only way you would ever run into legal trouble is trying to sell products using their logo/trademark. For that you have to pay a licensing fee.
NOPE! Completely false. I happen to be in a field where I have to know about such things; have taught it to artists and designers and have been hired by art schools and colleges with such programs to give talks about so artists/desigbers stay out of trouble. Making money off of it is NOT a criteria—at ALL. There's even a minimum amount of a fine if one wanted to enforce.

The idea behind a trademark is to prevent confusion between brands.

There was a day care center that had some Disney characters painted on the windows for the kids and Disney made them take it down. So Hanna-Barbera sent over their cartoonists to paint their own characters on the windows. That's a voluntary move that Disney decided they did not want to do but to enforce their rights.

Quit talking out of your arse-hole or back up your urban legend.
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NOPE! Completely false. I happen to be in a field where I have to know about such things; have taught it to artists and designers and have been hired by art schools and colleges with such programs to give talks about so artists/desigbers stay out of trouble. Making money off of it is NOT a criteria—at ALL. There's even a minimum amount of a fine if one wanted to enforce.

The idea behind a trademark is to prevent confusion between brands.

There was a day care center that had some Disney characters painted on the windows for the kids and Disney made them take it down. So Hanna-Barbera sent over their cartoonists to paint their own characters on the windows. That's a voluntary move that Disney decided they did not want to do but to enforce their rights.

Quit talking out of your arse-hole or back up your urban legend.
A daycare center is a place of business, and they can't use Disney's trademark to help sell their business. If the daycare was not a business, that never would have happened.
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Well, fan4ever, you may just be in luck, even if you want to use the team logo.

I was just googling and this came up.
Looks pretty cool.
The NFL And Teespring Team Up To Sell Fan-Created Custom T-Shirts For First Time

With football season fast approaching, America's most popular sports league has announced kickoff on a partnership to allow fans to show their support through custom team t-shirts.

The NFL and startup Teespring announced a partnership on Wednesday to allow licensed apparel to be sold on the startup’s website, connecting America’s most popular sports league to a marketplace that sells millions of user-created products. The deal could pave the way to much more personalized apparel with NFL licensed images, and a path to enormous scale for the high-growth startup.

Just three years old, Teespring has already become a major marketplace for t-shirts and other user-designed apparel. More than 4 million Americans bought something from Teespring last year, and the company’s minted dozens of millionaires from popular YouTube video bloggers to otherwise unknown individuals whose shirt ideas take off....[more]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexkon.../#2964a7d435a5
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