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Saints and Eagles ****ed you.
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Just read the trade... WTF are the Saints doing?
Trading away future capital right now to not guarantee "a guy" is odd. Not only that, they need a QB either now or next year. They just traded away the next year option. So now it's down to what they can do with what they just got. You would hope this trade sets up another they have already discussed, but wow. They could get to 3 if they packaged both of those picks to Houston. It'd take adding their 2 to get to #2. They pretty much can't get to #1. So, in no way are they guaranteeing they get a specific guy at QB. Jacksonville could send the #1 to a few other teams that have a top 10 selection and future capital as I have outlined here. If they are fine with Willis or Pickett, then going to #2 makes plenty of sense. They'd otherwise need to wait for the draft and see how things start to unfold and move then but at that point, a team could wow another with an offer that wasn't discussed preliminarily. This is a very, very odd development. I'll have to rethink the top of this draft a bit. No doubt NO has to make another move. |
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Do you guys think the Saints think they can win now with Jameis at QB for the next 2 years?
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Jacksonville has stated they are open to trading out of the 1 spot. Seattle really likes Willis from what I've seen. They can get it done. The Saints love Pickett but so does Atlanta and Carolina and they both have top 10 picks. It's going to get interesting. |
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I could see Jacksonville moving from 1, they have a good pass rusher in Allen. They don't have to take Hutchinson or Thibodeaux and would get a lot of pieces to put around their franchise QB by moving out.
What I can't see is Detroit moving out of 2. They could definitely stand to upgrade at QB and if Willis or Pickett go at 1, they could take whoever falls at 2. That said, do they feel either is a sure-fire upgrade over Goff? If they don't, then why also would they pass on their absolute biggest need and outstanding talent in Hutchinson? Zero sense move for them, especially if they are dropping to the teens, essentially not guaranteeing themselves any pass rushers. So if I expect Detroit won't move, that leaves Houston next on the docket. Houston seems married to Davis Mills, at least for now, but would they want to try to upgrade at QB too? It's the same damned situation as Detroit. Either you take the QB or you take an elite pass rusher in Thibodeaux. I can't see them wanting to move either. The Jets are kind of the next team that maybe would and could move at 4. They need a CB, they need a pass rusher, and they could use a playmaker at WR. Having 10, 16, and 19 would be a solid bet to get all 3 but they'd probably have to swing a 3rd or 4th back to NO. And then you have the conundrum for the Saints where what do they do at LT? Do they trust James Hurst to hold down the fort for what could be two seasons? Intersting. Very intersting. |
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Agree. I was typing my long post before I saw this. It just feels like it has to be 4 or 5. To get Detroit or Houston to move off their spot I think would take a monumental overpayment.
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For the Saints, it's already monumental overpayment. They have now reached the point of no return. This is the most draft sacrifice since the Ricky Williams trade in my opinion. For them, there is no turning back.
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They gave up a 2nd (2 years out) and 3rd to move from 18 to 16, 237 to 194, and swap out next year's 1 for this year's 1 (19). That's not at all terrible to me. From a value chart perspective, the Eagles are the ones that got fleeced. Even if they move to 4th overall and get nothing swung back to them, you look at the fact that they give up 1-18, 3-101, 7-237, 2023 1, 2024 2 for 1-4 and 6-194. That's not bad, at all. We've seen faaaaaaaaar worse. |
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