Kiper: Trading for Jameson with Pitt

[BigRedChief]

Hey draftniks, just watched a you tube of the show get up on ESPN. Mel Kiper was on saying he thought the Chiefs could give the 1st and 2nd round Miami picks to Pitt at 20 and jump up before the Pats and GB and pick Jameson.

What’s the opinion in here on Jameson? Going higher than 20, say 15 or so?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Hey draftniks, just watched a you tube of the show get up on ESPN. Mel Kiper was on saying he thought the Chiefs could give the 1st and 2nd round Miami picks to Pitt at 20 and jump up before the Pats and GB and pick Jameson.

What’s the opinion in here on Jameson? Going higher than 20, say 15 or so?

I neither love nor hate that idea.

There are so many fascinating ways this franchise could re-shape itself going forward that I don't think I would go the 'well lets see if we can find a lesser version of the guy we traded away with the return we got for him' plan.

But...we did okay with that first plan. So. I dunno.

For me, I'm keeping every damn pick we have and using every single one of them to continue building the depth of this roster and stack quality young talent across the board.

But again - they didn't ask me.

[The Franchise]

Wouldn't like it. You're basically forgoing the best value you got from trading Hill....to draft a WR who may or may not replace Hill.

You traded Tyreek Hill for Jameson Williams, two 4th round picks and a 6th? Color me ****ing unimpressed.

[staylor26]

If that’s the direction you go, that’s fine, but you better be right.

It’s really that simple.

[htismaqe]

Keep the picks. Nobody is 1-for-1 replacing Hill. We need numbers.

[The Franchise]

Mocking Jameson Williams to the Chiefs is just lazy writing.

He's fast. Tyreek Hill was fast. They lost Tyreek Hill. So mock Williams to the Chiefs.

Shit is getting old.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Wouldn't like it. You're basically forgoing the best value you got from trading Hill....to draft a WR who may or may not replace Hill.

You traded Tyreek Hill for Jameson Williams, two 4th round picks and a 6th? Color me ****ing unimpressed.

not saying i like the trade or even Jameson. As is obvious, I’m no draftnik. But, I don’t see it as a tit for tat. We trade for Hill lite via the draft picks received.

there is also the cap space gained. $100 million can get you some good players or keep your good players from leaving.

My own opinion is to keep those 6 picks and focus on rebuilding the defense.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Wouldn't like it. You're basically forgoing the best value you got from trading Hill....to draft a WR who may or may not replace Hill.

You traded Tyreek Hill for Jameson Williams, two 4th round picks and a 6th? Color me ****ing unimpressed.

And $20 million in cap space.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And $20 million in cap space.

Exactly.

Let’s say that Jameson Williams has a Waddle like season, or at least 2nd half of the season.

Would anybody be regretting the trade?

I don’t think I would.

But Waddle was a huge hit, so this would have to be as well.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

If that’s the direction you go, that’s fine, but you better be right.

It’s really that simple.

Yup.

If he’s really the best WR I’m the draft then he’s a future star. And if that’s what he becomes you’re golden.

But man you’re really working without a net in that case.

It’s a better idea than trading up to 15 to get the 3rd or 4th best DL in the draft and with WR contracts doing what they’re doing it may be the only way to get another superstar wideout in here for a long time.

Like I said - I can see the merits of both approaches.

But Veach CANNOT get that wrong.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by staylor26

If that’s the direction you go, that’s fine, but you better be right.

It’s really that simple.

That's the thing. Right there.

I'm not a fan; but IF they do it, it's because Veach, and Reid, and EB, and Patrick are all 100% on it.

[Couch-Potato]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Hey draftniks, just watched a you tube of the show get up on ESPN. Mel Kiper was on saying he thought the Chiefs could give the 1st and 2nd round Miami picks to Pitt at 20 and jump up before the Pats and GB and pick Jameson.

What’s the opinion in here on Jameson? Going higher than 20, say 15 or so?

Yes.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I neither love nor hate that idea.

There are so many fascinating ways this franchise could re-shape itself going forward that I don't think I would go the 'well lets see if we can find a lesser version of the guy we traded away with the return we got for him' plan.

But...we did okay with that first plan. So. I dunno.

For me, I'm keeping every damn pick we have and using every single one of them to continue building the depth of this roster and stack quality young talent across the board.

But again - they didn't ask me.

I'm 100% in agreement.

I think the signings we've made in FA indicate a change. These are bigger guys.

I'm not saying we might not take a flyer on Austin in the 4th and see if he can become Tyreek 2 Electric Boogaloo- but I don't think that's the primary concern.

Just get good football players. Andy has run offenses with different personnel, and always done well.

I'd prefer to sit back rather than aggressively trade up. We need bodies, this is a really deep draft, and we WILL have some really nice talent there for us all the way through round 4 if any of the mocks are remotely close.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

That's the thing. Right there.

I'm not a fan; but IF they do it, it's because Veach, and Reid, and EB, and Patrick are all 100% on it.

if they sign off, they view Jameson as a top receiver and if they are right and he is the man, that means 4.5 years of service, at best then he’s leaving for the $150 million contract. Such is life under the cap.

[Stryker]

I have to admit, at first I was all in on the guy 100% but, now that the smoke has cleared, I am all in on staying put and using ALL of our draft picks as they lay and see what Veach comes up with for the FUTURE of this team. I can have my wishes for how the draft unfolds but again - keep the picks. This is a great opportunity for us.