Chiefs A positive light to shine on this underwhelming free agency.

Direckshun · 03-22-2021, 07:46 AM

First off, I think it's safe to assume that we're going to make mid-level signings at WR (TY Hilton please?), LT (Russell Okung please?), and DE (Ingram, I suppose?).

I am also going to make the modest assumption that we sign back Reiter and Breeland/Sorensen, although obviously Breeland is a question mark.

At that point, this roster, pre-draft:

QB: Mahomes
RB: CEH, Williams

WR: Hill, Hilton?, Hardman, Pringle
TE: Kelce, Bell, Keizer

LT: Okung?
LG: Thuney
C: Reiter
RG: LDT/Long
RT: Niang/Remmers

DE: Clark, Charlton
DT: Jones, Wharton
DT: Nnadi, Saunders
DE: Ingram?, Danna

LB: Gay
LB: Hitchens

CB: Sneed, Ward, Williams, Fenton, eventually Baker
S: Mathieu, Thornhill, Sorensen?, Watt

Keep in mind, this is before the draft.

So here's the positive light: the Bills, Patriots and Browns have closed the gap some, but who in the AFC is taking down this roster?

Probably nobody? Probably?

And taking a look at the top teams in the NFC this past year: the Bucs and the Packers have not made any dramatic additions, and the Saints have taken a huge step back.

I think it's clear the Bucs were the better team in the Super Bowl. But do the Bucs win that game if Mahomes had all ten toes? If his offensive line hadn't been in shambles? If two receivers hadn't let TD passes hit them in the face? If the refs hadn't lost their damn minds in the first half? If Andy Reid wasn't absolutely distracted?

Barring surprising developments like Herbert going nuclear in Los Angeles or Tua making a huge 2nd year leap or Cam staying healthy for 16 17 games, the Chiefs are more likely to return to the Super Bowl than any other team in the NFL, and if our roster is pretty healthy and Mahomes is 100%, I like our odds as much as anybody.

This all despite a sucky free agency that hasn't netted us any real improvements except at guard.

Skyy God · 03-22-2021, 07:50 AM

But what fun is realistic optimism when CP can go full gloom and doom?

Direckshun · 03-22-2021, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

But what fun is realistic optimism when CP can go full gloom and doom?

I mean, I sympathize, because this offseason has pissed me off too.

You can only ask Mahomes to restructure so many times realistically, same with Kelce and Jones. And you're asking them to do that this offseason to bring in a stud guard and a bunch of midlevel signings who weren't even the best midlevel signings available?

At the same time, though, we are still the best team in the AFC, and so long as we can get the roster and Mahomes to the Super Bowl in good health, I like our chances.

Hammock Parties · 03-22-2021, 07:55 AM

Jesus Christ, Okung? Hell no.

htismaqe · 03-22-2021, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Jesus Christ, Okung? Hell no.

They're likely looking at a stop-gap + draft pick scenario.

Do you have a different preference?

RunKC · 03-22-2021, 08:04 AM

Gay is gonna be a solid player. Wharton will be in his first NFL training program and should get bigger. He’ll be better.

If Niang is even an average RT then we’re in business

O.city · 03-22-2021, 08:08 AM

At this point, add another WR and a TE. Trade our extra 4 to the Eagles for Ertz.

Load up the D in free agency with whats left.

The Chiefs are the class of the AFC as long as they have Mahomes.

Chris Meck · 03-22-2021, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Gay is gonna be a solid player. Wharton will be in his first NFL training program and should get bigger. He’ll be better.

If Niang is even an average RT then we’re in business

Oh, I think Gay will be more than solid. I think he's going to be a star. With that much athletic ability, he's either going to be a star, or too stupid to figure it out but I doubt 'solid' is the end result.

chiefzilla1501 · 03-22-2021, 08:37 AM

Am I the only one who isn't underwhelmed? We have an elite team that's just kicking in our mega qb salary in a year where the cap was cut and we fell into a no win situation with two good OTs. And yet we are one stable OT away from being in a real good spot. Actually an excellent spot because I don't think there's enough appreciation for how huge it is to get the interior OL fixed.

What did people think we were going to do? We are at a point and veach is a master of this where we're going to do really well in the second and third wave of this offseason.

Chief Northman · 03-22-2021, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Jesus Christ, Okung? Hell no.

Never a fan, but he was good last season. Stopgap maybe..

Skyy God · 03-22-2021, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Am I the only one who isn't underwhelmed? We have an elite team that's just kicking in our mega qb salary in a year where the cap was cut and we fell into a no win situation with two good OTs. And yet we are one stable OT away from being in a real good spot. Actually an excellent spot because I don't think there's enough appreciation for how huge it is to get the interior OL fixed.

What did people think we were going to do? We are at a point and veach is a master of this where we're going to do really well in the second and third wave of this offseason.

This.

We have limited cap space and are in the process of maximizing it.

Doesn’t happen overnight.

lcarus · 03-22-2021, 08:44 AM

As long as they draft well, I like where the roster is at. They'll get better in the trenches on both sides of the ball. I'm sure that's their biggest priority. They'll grab more WRs and CBs. We'll be good.

**Baby Lee** · 03-22-2021, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

But what fun is realistic optimism when CP can go full gloom and doom?

I'm not 'doom and gloom' but it's a hard sell to cut all ties with your one anchor at a premium position, then go all out to obtain a particular replacement, and then when you don't obtain it, sell it as 'all according to master plan.'

We still have the most potent weapon in the league, but when it comes to protecting him, we have to be sober that we're now on plan B.

I'm sure we'll assemble something that 'suffices,' but don't expect Bunch Vogle chomping on one of Hannibal Smith's cigars growling 'they all fell into my trap!!'

Chris Meck · 03-22-2021, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I'm not 'doom and gloom' but it's a hard sell to cut all ties with your one anchor at a premium position, then go all out to obtain a particular replacement, and then when you don't obtain it, sell it as 'all according to master plan.'

We still have the most potent weapon in the league, but when it comes to protecting him, we have to be sober that we're now on plan B.

I'm sure we'll assemble something that 'suffices,' but don't expect Bunch Vogle chomping on one of Hannibal Smith's cigars growling 'they all fell into my trap!!'

You do understand that the other guys get paid to do their jobs too, right?

If you had an expectation that Veach was just going to fleece everyone then you were in a wrong place to begin with.

**wazu** · 03-22-2021, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Jesus Christ, Okung? Hell no.

What's wrong with Okung? We've already missed out on the stud LT train. At least give us somebody who we know can play the position in the NFL.

03-22-2021, 07:46 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4183447	A positive light to shine on this underwhelming free agency. First off, I think it's safe to assume that we're going to make mid-level signings at WR (TY Hilton please?), LT (Russell Okung please?), and DE (Ingram, I suppose?). I am also going to make the modest assumption that we sign back Reiter and Breeland/Sorensen, although obviously Breeland is a question mark. At that point, this roster, pre-draft: QB: Mahomes RB: CEH, Williams WR: Hill, Hilton?, Hardman, Pringle TE: Kelce, Bell, Keizer LT: Okung? LG: Thuney C: Reiter RG: LDT/Long RT: Niang/Remmers DE: Clark, Charlton DT: Jones, Wharton DT: Nnadi, Saunders DE: Ingram?, Danna LB: Gay LB: Hitchens CB: Sneed, Ward, Williams, Fenton, eventually Baker S: Mathieu, Thornhill, Sorensen?, Watt Keep in mind, this is before the draft. So here's the positive light: the Bills, Patriots and Browns have closed the gap some, but who in the AFC is taking down this roster? Probably nobody? Probably? And taking a look at the top teams in the NFC this past year: the Bucs and the Packers have not made any dramatic additions, and the Saints have taken a huge step back. I think it's clear the Bucs were the better team in the Super Bowl. But do the Bucs win that game if Mahomes had all ten toes? If his offensive line hadn't been in shambles? If two receivers hadn't let TD passes hit them in the face? If the refs hadn't lost their damn minds in the first half? If Andy Reid wasn't absolutely distracted? Barring surprising developments like Herbert going nuclear in Los Angeles or Tua making a huge 2nd year leap or Cam staying healthy for 16 17 games, the Chiefs are more likely to return to the Super Bowl than any other team in the NFL, and if our roster is pretty healthy and Mahomes is 100%, I like our odds as much as anybody. This all despite a sucky free agency that hasn't netted us any real improvements except at guard.
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $1844497	Am I the only one who isn't underwhelmed? We have an elite team that's just kicking in our mega qb salary in a year where the cap was cut and we fell into a no win situation with two good OTs. And yet we are one stable OT away from being in a real good spot. Actually an excellent spot because I don't think there's enough appreciation for how huge it is to get the interior OL fixed. What did people think we were going to do? We are at a point and veach is a master of this where we're going to do really well in the second and third wave of this offseason.
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