Again, tell me why ALLEN isn't starting?

irishjayhawk · 10-26-2004, 05:24 AM

Holliday hasn't done much, if anything. Dalton, Allen Hicks and Browning seem to be our best line atm. Siavii and Sims aren't bad either..as Sims is showing he can play (even after the injury)

So why isn't ALLEN starting as he has 4 sacks?

Fairplay · 10-26-2004, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kcsportsguy

Holliday hasn't done much, if anything. Dalton, Allen Hicks and Browning seem to be our best line atm. Siavii and Sims aren't bad either..as Sims is showing he can play (even after the injury)

So why isn't ALLEN starting as he has 4 sacks?

Ask DV.

DeepSouth · 10-26-2004, 07:06 AM

I'm very pleased with the depth the Chiefs have on the defensive line. Someone gets hurt, someone else fills in without much of a dropoff in talent.

chiefz · 10-26-2004, 07:21 AM

They will always rotate linemen in Vermeils system so I am not sure it really matters who "starts" Allen will get some playing time. Specifically on passing downs or later in the game if the Chiefs pull ahead and force the opponents to pass a lot.

Holliday is very good at stopping the run, I saw him run from one side to the other and tackle Fred Taylor from the back at least twice against the Jags.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 10-26-2004, 07:22 AM

Because Dick is having a passionate affair with a guy named Vonnie? It does sound like a girls' name after all.

Dr. Johnny Fever · 10-26-2004, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzhuddle.com

They will always rotate linemen in Vermeils system so I am not sure it really matters who "starts" Allen will get some playing time. Specifically on passing downs or later in the game if the Chiefs pull ahead and force the opponents to pass a lot.

Holliday is very good at stopping the run, I saw him run from one side to the other and tackle Fred Taylor from the back at least twice against the Jags.

KEEP F##KING DOUBTING VONNIE HOLLIDAY!!!!!!!!

Chiefnj · 10-26-2004, 07:26 AM

It doesn't really matter who is named the "starter." He's been rotating in on about 50% of the plays. I have no problem keeping him fresh. It will hopefully avoid the burnout that most rookies face when they hit the wall around week 12.

chiefz · 10-26-2004, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by beer me

KEEP F##KING DOUBTING VONNIE HOLLIDAY!!!!!!!!

Chiefnj · 10-26-2004, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzhuddle.com

It's an "inside" ongoing joke on the planet. Essentially, when someone busts on a particular player someone will reply "Keep F'ing doubting [insert name of player]."

Eleazar · 10-26-2004, 08:35 AM

Holliday has been playing better lately.

Allen is effective in his role right now and the defense is playing well.

chiefz · 10-26-2004, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

It's an "inside" ongoing joke on the planet. Essentially, when someone busts on a particular player someone will reply "Keep F'ing doubting [insert name of player]."

I figured as much, although I am not doubting Holliday, in fact I have been one of his few supporters after the bootleg frenzy in game 1.

Thats why I posted the:

Thanks for the info though!

chiefz · 10-26-2004, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Holliday has been playing better lately.

Allen is effective in his role right now and the defense is playing well.

They are two very different style players IMO.

Holliday is more of a big run stuffing DE where as Allen is more of a speedy edge rusher.

The rotation seems to be working so I say we stick with it.

**Rain Man** · 10-26-2004, 08:46 AM

Like everyone else around here, I like Allen.

Stepping back objectively, is it possible that he's not strong enough against the run yet, and if he starts the opposing teams will game plan the first few series against him? Just guessing.

chiefz · 10-26-2004, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Like everyone else around here, I like Allen.

Stepping back objectively, is it possible that he's not strong enough against the run yet, and if he starts the opposing teams will game plan the first few series against him? Just guessing.

Well I believe he is around 25 pounds lighter than Holliday so it is possible that he could get pushed around on runs between the tackles.

**grandllama** · 10-26-2004, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

It's an "inside" ongoing joke on the planet. Essentially, when someone busts on a particular player someone will reply "Keep F'ing doubting [insert name of player]."

Keep F##cking Doubting Michael Tucker!....

eh, whoops, wrong sport... wrong season...

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10-26-2004, 05:24 AM
irishjayhawk Feelin' Alright Join Date: Aug 2004 Casino cash: $10004900	Again, tell me why ALLEN isn't starting? Holliday hasn't done much, if anything. Dalton, Allen Hicks and Browning seem to be our best line atm. Siavii and Sims aren't bad either..as Sims is showing he can play (even after the injury) So why isn't ALLEN starting as he has 4 sacks?
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Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	It doesn't really matter who is named the "starter." He's been rotating in on about 50% of the plays. I have no problem keeping him fresh. It will hopefully avoid the burnout that most rookies face when they hit the wall around week 12. __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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