How Should the US Respond

Frazod · 09-12-2001, 10:35 PM

I'm kind of surprised that no one's done this yet (unless it's buried) but I'm curious where the majority weighs in.

Frazod · 09-12-2001, 10:43 PM

This poll assumes that there is a primary national interest behind this (which I believe there is).

Raiderhater · 09-12-2001, 10:47 PM

Well, I needed more combinations to find exactly what I am looking for but I went with missle strikes and Special Forces strikes. The reason being that missles by themselves won't accomplish the job, that has been proved throughout the past 8 years. I guess ideally I would say send in a special forces unit to take out Bin Laden so as to have conformation that the SOB is dead, then use tactical nuke strikes on the government of the country harboring him as well as all terrorists camps in the country. If that isn't enough start taking out terrorists strongholds in other countries.

Frazod · 09-12-2001, 10:52 PM

I went with Tactical Nuke Strike. Best way to deal with this bin Ladin fucker if we get a general idea where he is, and would send a clear message - we know how you bomb people, now you know how WE BOMB PEOPLE. Shall we continue?

I know there would be consequences, but don't give a shit. I figure anyone who'd try to nuke us in retaliation would probably do it anyway, and maybe this way we'll take them out first or at least give them pause.

Time to quit fucking around and pull out the big guns. I want these bastards DEAD.

Raiderhater · 09-12-2001, 10:56 PM

I have no problem with using nukes on these bastards, but I want visual conformation that Bin Laden is dead. I want a special forces sniper, or a CIA operative reporting to their senior that they watched the POS hit the ground after THEY pulled the trigger. I don't want to take any chances with this, get the bastard and be sure of it, then let loose the nukes.

Frazod · 09-12-2001, 11:01 PM

Jamie, ideally we'd be able to capture bin Laden alive, publically execute him and then mount his head on the wall of the Oval Office. But I doubt if we'll ever find him - the guy is way too much of a p#ssy to ever partake in a stand-up fight - he runs like diarrhea.

I also don't like the idea of our troops actually going to Afghanistan - just ask the Russians what a pain the balls that ends up being. No more American lives should be lost over this scumbag.

Hydrae · 09-12-2001, 11:04 PM

I went with the simple Special Forces strike. Somehow I just have a hard time justifying killing additional thousands of innocent humans. The term innocent could and perhaps should be argued with but I do no think it will solve anything to lower ourselves to their level.

Also, I do not care whether Bin Laden was responsible for this attack or not, the S.O.B. need to die anyway! We just need to try not to make him into a martyr, you can not kill a martyr!

Raiderhater · 09-12-2001, 11:05 PM

But if you don't make 100% certain that he is dead, then more American lives would be lost. Food for thought anyway.

Ast o our boys going in there, I am not talking about a typical invasion, I am talking about locating, to exact a location as is possible, where he is and drop a special forces group in and let them do their good deeds.

Brock · 09-12-2001, 11:09 PM

That is not an even exchange. The death of a few in exchange for dead Americans on American soil? No. We must take away these jackals' ability to make war. Afghan, Iran, and Iraq must be removed.

DaWolf · 09-12-2001, 11:14 PM

Brock,
If that's the case, why are we stopping with those 3 countries? You'd have to nuke about every country in the mideast and wipe millions off the face of the earth, because some of those terrorist networks are spread all over the place, sort of like the mob networks in the US used to be...

Frazod · 09-12-2001, 11:15 PM

I personally feel we should pay them back AT LEAST 10 to 1. At the very, bare minimum. Death is the only thing these turds seem to respect - give it to them by the truckload.

Probably not a good idea to nuke the whole region, though - the Russians and Chinese would probably take great offense to massive amounts of radioactive fallout so close to home. Can't say as I'd blame them.

KCWolfman · 09-12-2001, 11:17 PM

Are you guys really serious about a nuclear strike?

Don't you think that China, India, and the Russias will have something to complain about with the fallout?

Brock · 09-12-2001, 11:19 PM

Dawolf - Those 3 countries account for 99 percent of the terrorists' abilities to do what they do. I did not even mention Yemen or the Sudan, who also richly deserve a solid pounding.

kcmecker · 09-12-2001, 11:21 PM

whatever we do, it's definitely not the last two options. To get these kinds of people's attention is to hit them where it hurts. Remember in '84 when we bombed Qadafi? We killed some of his family and you don't hear too much about him anymore. People like this are people of action not talk, courts and laws do not affect them.

Fortunately we don't have to take a very high moral road in this situation. Whomever is responsible has lowered their standards to the lowest possible and started digging. If innocents, (in those countries, I don't think there are (ie Palestine, and that idiot who said "that's what they get for messing with Iraq." )) are killed during the retaliation, it is a causualy of war. They had every opportunity to stop it and they didn't.

I am concerned though if we take a nuclear option. Though I feel it would be most effective in sending a message, I do believe we would suffer a backlash in world opinion. But what the hell, I'm tired of my Honda always breaking down.

Frazod · 09-12-2001, 11:23 PM

Yes, I am. On a minimal scale - perhaps of the Hiroshima variety. If this guy is hiding out in the mountains, it would almost certainly kill less people than the WTC bombing did. China, Russia and India would certainly be pissed, but would not be willing to go to extremes over it. When it comes down to it, WE ARE THE POWER, and they aren't.

Would make a big impression, and I'm tired of playing games with these bastards.

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View Poll Results: What Should the US Do Now
All Out Nuclear War against All Backers of Islamic Terrorism	9	10.59%
Tactical Nuclear Strike Against Primary Offending Nation	4	4.71%
Non-Nuke Full Scale Invasion/Conquering of Offending Nation	32	37.65%
Massive Non Nuke Missile Strike of Offending Nation	10	11.76%
Missile Strike plus Special Forces Attack	24	28.24%
Special Forces Surgical Strike Only	6	7.06%
Negotiate with Terrorists and Arab Leaders	0	0%
Talk Tough and see what happens next	0	0%
Voters: 85. You may not vote on this poll

09-12-2001, 10:35 PM
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-796615	How Should the US Respond I'm kind of surprised that no one's done this yet (unless it's buried) but I'm curious where the majority weighs in.
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09-12-2001, 10:43 PM	#2
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-796615	This poll assumes that there is a primary national interest behind this (which I believe there is).
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09-12-2001, 10:47 PM	#3
Raiderhater Tried it on and it fit Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: A Webb of chaos Casino cash: $-1617979	Well, I needed more combinations to find exactly what I am looking for but I went with missle strikes and Special Forces strikes. The reason being that missles by themselves won't accomplish the job, that has been proved throughout the past 8 years. I guess ideally I would say send in a special forces unit to take out Bin Laden so as to have conformation that the SOB is dead, then use tactical nuke strikes on the government of the country harboring him as well as all terrorists camps in the country. If that isn't enough start taking out terrorists strongholds in other countries. __________________ "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, and disregard of all the rules." -- George Orwell, Shooting an Elephant
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09-12-2001, 10:52 PM	#4
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-796615	I went with Tactical Nuke Strike. Best way to deal with this bin Ladin fucker if we get a general idea where he is, and would send a clear message - we know how you bomb people, now you know how WE BOMB PEOPLE. Shall we continue? I know there would be consequences, but don't give a shit. I figure anyone who'd try to nuke us in retaliation would probably do it anyway, and maybe this way we'll take them out first or at least give them pause. Time to quit fucking around and pull out the big guns. I want these bastards DEAD.
Posts: 121,775

09-12-2001, 10:56 PM	#5
Raiderhater Tried it on and it fit Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: A Webb of chaos Casino cash: $-1617979	I have no problem with using nukes on these bastards, but I want visual conformation that Bin Laden is dead. I want a special forces sniper, or a CIA operative reporting to their senior that they watched the POS hit the ground after THEY pulled the trigger. I don't want to take any chances with this, get the bastard and be sure of it, then let loose the nukes. __________________ "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, and disregard of all the rules." -- George Orwell, Shooting an Elephant
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09-12-2001, 11:01 PM	#6
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-796615	Jamie, ideally we'd be able to capture bin Laden alive, publically execute him and then mount his head on the wall of the Oval Office. But I doubt if we'll ever find him - the guy is way too much of a p#ssy to ever partake in a stand-up fight - he runs like diarrhea. I also don't like the idea of our troops actually going to Afghanistan - just ask the Russians what a pain the balls that ends up being. No more American lives should be lost over this scumbag.
Posts: 121,775

09-12-2001, 11:04 PM	#7
Hydrae MVP Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Newport, Or Casino cash: $-1163000	I went with the simple Special Forces strike. Somehow I just have a hard time justifying killing additional thousands of innocent humans. The term innocent could and perhaps should be argued with but I do no think it will solve anything to lower ourselves to their level. Also, I do not care whether Bin Laden was responsible for this attack or not, the S.O.B. need to die anyway! We just need to try not to make him into a martyr, you can not kill a martyr! __________________ My 2024 Adopt-A-Chief: Rashee Rice
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09-12-2001, 11:05 PM	#8
Raiderhater Tried it on and it fit Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: A Webb of chaos Casino cash: $-1617979	But if you don't make 100% certain that he is dead, then more American lives would be lost. Food for thought anyway. Ast o our boys going in there, I am not talking about a typical invasion, I am talking about locating, to exact a location as is possible, where he is and drop a special forces group in and let them do their good deeds. __________________ "Serious sport has nothing to do with fair play. It is bound up with hatred, jealousy, boastfulness, and disregard of all the rules." -- George Orwell, Shooting an Elephant
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09-12-2001, 11:09 PM	#9
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	That is not an even exchange. The death of a few in exchange for dead Americans on American soil? No. We must take away these jackals' ability to make war. Afghan, Iran, and Iraq must be removed.
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09-12-2001, 11:14 PM	#10
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	Brock, If that's the case, why are we stopping with those 3 countries? You'd have to nuke about every country in the mideast and wipe millions off the face of the earth, because some of those terrorist networks are spread all over the place, sort of like the mob networks in the US used to be...
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09-12-2001, 11:15 PM	#11
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-796615	I personally feel we should pay them back AT LEAST 10 to 1. At the very, bare minimum. Death is the only thing these turds seem to respect - give it to them by the truckload. Probably not a good idea to nuke the whole region, though - the Russians and Chinese would probably take great offense to massive amounts of radioactive fallout so close to home. Can't say as I'd blame them.
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09-12-2001, 11:17 PM	#12
KCWolfman Fall down 7 times, get up 8 Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Are you guys really serious about a nuclear strike? Don't you think that China, India, and the Russias will have something to complain about with the fallout?
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09-12-2001, 11:19 PM	#13
Brock Say hello to my little friend Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Larryville Casino cash: $9598422	Dawolf - Those 3 countries account for 99 percent of the terrorists' abilities to do what they do. I did not even mention Yemen or the Sudan, who also richly deserve a solid pounding.
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09-12-2001, 11:21 PM	#14
kcmecker Long Time Lurker Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Richmond, VA Casino cash: $-102672	whatever we do, it's definitely not the last two options. To get these kinds of people's attention is to hit them where it hurts. Remember in '84 when we bombed Qadafi? We killed some of his family and you don't hear too much about him anymore. People like this are people of action not talk, courts and laws do not affect them. Fortunately we don't have to take a very high moral road in this situation. Whomever is responsible has lowered their standards to the lowest possible and started digging. If innocents, (in those countries, I don't think there are (ie Palestine, and that idiot who said "that's what they get for messing with Iraq." )) are killed during the retaliation, it is a causualy of war. They had every opportunity to stop it and they didn't. I am concerned though if we take a nuclear option. Though I feel it would be most effective in sending a message, I do believe we would suffer a backlash in world opinion. But what the hell, I'm tired of my Honda always breaking down.
Posts: 72

09-12-2001, 11:23 PM	#15
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-796615	Yes, I am. On a minimal scale - perhaps of the Hiroshima variety. If this guy is hiding out in the mountains, it would almost certainly kill less people than the WTC bombing did. China, Russia and India would certainly be pissed, but would not be willing to go to extremes over it. When it comes down to it, WE ARE THE POWER, and they aren't. Would make a big impression, and I'm tired of playing games with these bastards. When you care enough to send the very best...
Posts: 121,775